EXALTED ORB Price Shenanigans [Delirium] 127:1 What is even going on?

Theres is no need to "ban all bots". If GGG really would like to do it (but will never do, because if somebody is willing to buy exalts for dollars, then he will buy MTX too – very valuable moron from GGG’s point of view) there is really easy way.

Solution is simple - all bots have to give farmed currency to some big, wholesale "RMT shop", which should be very well supplied, like thousands of exalts and other currencies. From GGG§s point of view it is really easy to track such “supermarkets” and ban them. Such action can bring real losses to the owners of RMT shops, because “bot farms” must consume quite a lot of electricity, managing them also generates some costs, so losing the whole stock is really painful. In addition, it is not certain that in a few days the next created supermarket will not be closed in the same way/ However, as I said many times before – that will not happened, as bots are… good for business.

Only me don't play bcoz of super bad economy ?

I am still waiting and hoping they'll issue a ban wave. But once the ratio increases to 180-200 chaos for an exalt there is really going to be no reason to keep up.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

I am still waiting and hoping they'll issue a ban wave. But once the ratio increases to 180-200 chaos for an exalt there is really going to be no reason to keep up.

They can do it eventually, but not now. If at all, then probably two weeks before the end of the league, when most customers of RMT stores are already waiting for the new league. In this way, GGG can act as a "positive hero" who bravely fights bots to please playerbase, without much danger to business, because till start of the new league "RMT supermarkets" will rebuild without a problem, and their "banned" content will not be sold anyway, because in the standard league no one buys for real money.

You will see yourself:) Few bans and dozens of fanboys and whiteknights appears with some idolatrous texts in the style of "Oh, our beloved GGG heroically fights with bots, I will immedietly buy a new supporter pack right now"

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postrach_myszy wrote:

Theres is no need to "ban all bots". If GGG really would like to do it (but will never do, because if somebody is willing to buy exalts for dollars, then he will buy MTX too – very valuable moron from GGG’s point of view) there is really easy way.

Solution is simple - all bots have to give farmed currency to some big, wholesale "RMT shop", which should be very well supplied, like thousands of exalts and other currencies. From GGG§s point of view it is really easy to track such “supermarkets” and ban them. Such action can bring real losses to the owners of RMT shops, because “bot farms” must consume quite a lot of electricity, managing them also generates some costs, so losing the whole stock is really painful. In addition, it is not certain that in a few days the next created supermarket will not be closed in the same way/ However, as I said many times before – that will not happened, as bots are… good for business.

Nice guilty admission there.

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postrach_myszy wrote:

From GGG§s point of view it is really easy to track such “supermarkets” and ban them. Such action can bring real losses to the owners of RMT shops, because “bot farms” must consume quite a lot of electricity, managing them also generates some costs, so losing the whole stock is really painful.

GGG has no power over other sites and resources on the internet or any other activities, unless they violate the copyright. Which they don't.

Bot farms could, or could not be strictly related to the RMT sites. Some are botting for supplies, others re-sell, or both.

Banning and having control over bot farms ain't so easy as it looks like.
First, bot farms are about quantity over quality. Owners know they'll get caught sooner or later and some of the farms will get banned, but it doesn't matter as long as bots generate more profit than expenses. You ban one farm, they create two new at its place.
Second, taking into account that besides flooding the game with bots they also take certain precautions, fighting armies of those ain't fast, nor easy.

For ggg it's way easier to catch the inexperienced morons, doing it "for try, for see, and for know."
Then come the bot farms, which are harder to get tracked and they also flood.
And last are the pro botters running a couple of bots which are overly hard to get tracked, and even if they do, main account survives. And they keep going.

"It's easy, just ban them", are overly naive kind of statements.
There are certain reasons why bots flourish, and as long as these reasons exist, ggg can do just a few.

The other way around is to ask the Chinese overlord for help, even for the sheer reason that the ridiculously intense recent bot activity corresponds to the popularization of the game to the Chinese market.

10cent also have the resources of human and financial power far beyond what ggg can ever get.

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torturo wrote:

GGG has no power over other sites and resources on the internet or any other activities, unless they violate the copyright. Which they don't.

Someone hasn't heard of the multitude of Korean lawsuits, that they have won, against RMT sites. bot makers, and bot farms all over the world...

They don't need to invoke copyright in instances of financial claims, they just need to prove there was a loss of profit due to activities that they or their Government disallows.

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LeetbakaDX wrote:

Someone hasn't heard of the multitude of Korean lawsuits, that they have won, against RMT sites. bot makers, and bot farms all over the world...

I'm aware you're hyperbolizing certain aspects of your statement to be taken seriously, but it still doesn't cut it.
Bring some proofs or evidences that it's a common widely spread activity rather than isolated cases.

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they just need to prove there was a loss of profit

Aight, that simple.
To solve world hunger, just feed the people.

"OMEGALUL"? Damn I feel old sometimes....

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HappyRogue wrote:

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postrach_myszy wrote:

Theres is no need to "ban all bots". If GGG really would like to do it (but will never do, because if somebody is willing to buy exalts for dollars, then he will buy MTX too – very valuable moron from GGG’s point of view) there is really easy way.

Solution is simple - all bots have to give farmed currency to some big, wholesale "RMT shop", which should be very well supplied, like thousands of exalts and other currencies. From GGG§s point of view it is really easy to track such “supermarkets” and ban them. Such action can bring real losses to the owners of RMT shops, because “bot farms” must consume quite a lot of electricity, managing them also generates some costs, so losing the whole stock is really painful. In addition, it is not certain that in a few days the next created supermarket will not be closed in the same way/ However, as I said many times before – that will not happened, as bots are… good for business.

Nice guilty admission there.

I think he has a good point. For example, GGG could keep a record of all trades, especially trades that were just giving currency without getting anything in return. When they track down a bot then go through that trade record and just ban all accounts that ever got currency in those trades. This would ban all the RMT "bank" accounts, all the RMT "wharehouse" accounts, and all the RMT customer accounts. GGG would probably never do that because those customers are also more likely than not also players that have donated to GGG.