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I don't know why ppl messing around with rise of the phoneix here. A high ES shield with reduced overtime dmg taken and pantheon with reduced over time damage taken is much more better.(i can do -12 max res maps or vuln. maps as well you really dont need that unique shield).AFter i got more than 8k ES the build started to getting really strong, but until that happened meh xd...so you realy cant miss a good ES shield with Leo craft.

1.
If you are using rise of the phoenix there is absolutely no point having a 6 link shavs since you cant go low life with RF and cant have the dmg boost for SR.

2.
I would recomend getting a cheap shavs(NOT a 6 link) and buying the presence of chayula amulet from your remaining currency.
You will have high enough dmg from rf alone to run any T15 maps just withRF.
If you add a 4 link Scorhing ray with faster casting(obviously for the debuff) you will be capable of killing the guardians as well(except phoenix) and end game izaro easily.

3.
If you are using a +2 sceptre then get Opal rings with inc fire dmg enchant they really boost your dmg.

4.
Get as much ES as you can but with rise of the phoneix you can't really do that.


I think those are the 4 most important thing you should do in order to fix up your slightly working build into a fine enjoyable build.

Almost forgot to mention: lvl up at least to 90 the difference is huge.
Last edited by asdrockyasd on Sep 16, 2017, 9:26:09 AM
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asdrockyasd wrote:
I don't know why ppl messing around with rise of the phoneix here. A high ES shield with reduced overtime dmg taken and pantheon with reduced over time damage taken is much more better.(i can do -12 max res maps or vuln. maps as well you really dont need that unique shield).AFter i got more than 8k ES the build started to getting really strong, but until that happened meh xd...so you realy cant miss a good ES shield with Leo craft.

1.
If you are using rise of the phoenix there is absolutely no point having a 6 link shavs since you cant go low life with RF and cant have the dmg boost for SR.

2.
I would recomend getting a cheap shavs(NOT a 6 link) and buying the presence of chayula amulet from your remaining currency.
You will have high enough dmg from rf alone to run any T15 maps just withRF.
If you add a 4 link Scorhing ray with faster casting(obviously for the debuff) you will be capable of killing the guardians as well(except phoenix) and end game izaro easily.

3.
If you are using a +2 sceptre then get Opal rings with inc fire dmg enchant they really boost your dmg.

4.
Get as much ES as you can but with rise of the phoneix you can't really do that.


I think those are the 4 most important thing you should do in order to fix up your slightly working build into a fine enjoyable build.

Almost forgot to mention: lvl up at least to 90 the difference is huge.


Thank you so much for all this valuable insight dude. I will get to working on your suggestions right away. This build is so enjoyable so far and I can't wait to see what I can do with it. Thank you for your time!
Maybe one day GGG will realize we don't like Labyrinth. ha.
Some people seem to go wands and stack spell damage while others go scepter and stack elemental damage... is one of these superior?
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asdrockyasd wrote:
I don't know why ppl messing around with rise of the phoneix here. A high ES shield with reduced overtime dmg taken and pantheon with reduced over time damage taken is much more better.(i can do -12 max res maps or vuln. maps as well you really dont need that unique shield).AFter i got more than 8k ES the build started to getting really strong, but until that happened meh xd...so you realy cant miss a good ES shield with Leo craft.

1.
If you are using rise of the phoenix there is absolutely no point having a 6 link shavs since you cant go low life with RF and cant have the dmg boost for SR.

2.
I would recomend getting a cheap shavs(NOT a 6 link) and buying the presence of chayula amulet from your remaining currency.
You will have high enough dmg from rf alone to run any T15 maps just withRF.
If you add a 4 link Scorhing ray with faster casting(obviously for the debuff) you will be capable of killing the guardians as well(except phoenix) and end game izaro easily.

3.
If you are using a +2 sceptre then get Opal rings with inc fire dmg enchant they really boost your dmg.

4.
Get as much ES as you can but with rise of the phoneix you can't really do that.


I think those are the 4 most important thing you should do in order to fix up your slightly working build into a fine enjoyable build.

Almost forgot to mention: lvl up at least to 90 the difference is huge.


First off, i tried switching out a rare titanium shield with leo craft just to see whether ill degen, and the truth is i will degen but i regen fast enough. But however i do not like the idea of my ES shield going down and up by like a few 100 es. Any way to maintain it at max forever without +1 max res in chayula?

Secondly, i did have a lvl 23 purity of fire and vitality on.

But with ROTF, the 8 max res is just too good. Just wanted to ask, our max res is more important in prventing us from degen am i right?
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Ramziese wrote:
Some people seem to go wands and stack spell damage while others go scepter and stack elemental damage... is one of these superior?


Elemental

It boosts both rf and ray
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Ramziese wrote:
Some people seem to go wands and stack spell damage while others go scepter and stack elemental damage... is one of these superior?

This is obvious that ele and fire dmg are better than spell dmg beacase spell dmg only affects SR but not RF. But it all depends on your wallet. In PoB i have a higher total damage output with my spell wand than with top Doryani's, but the difference isn't critical. So if u cannot afford expensive ele/fire sceptre or spell wand with fire/burn mods and cast speed then Doryani's is your best choice.
Last edited by Windgaming on Sep 16, 2017, 12:31:48 PM
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SeanTay92 wrote:
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asdrockyasd wrote:
I don't know why ppl messing around with rise of the phoneix here. A high ES shield with reduced overtime dmg taken and pantheon with reduced over time damage taken is much more better.(i can do -12 max res maps or vuln. maps as well you really dont need that unique shield).AFter i got more than 8k ES the build started to getting really strong, but until that happened meh xd...so you realy cant miss a good ES shield with Leo craft.

1.
If you are using rise of the phoenix there is absolutely no point having a 6 link shavs since you cant go low life with RF and cant have the dmg boost for SR.

2.
I would recomend getting a cheap shavs(NOT a 6 link) and buying the presence of chayula amulet from your remaining currency.
You will have high enough dmg from rf alone to run any T15 maps just withRF.
If you add a 4 link Scorhing ray with faster casting(obviously for the debuff) you will be capable of killing the guardians as well(except phoenix) and end game izaro easily.

3.
If you are using a +2 sceptre then get Opal rings with inc fire dmg enchant they really boost your dmg.

4.
Get as much ES as you can but with rise of the phoneix you can't really do that.


I think those are the 4 most important thing you should do in order to fix up your slightly working build into a fine enjoyable build.

Almost forgot to mention: lvl up at least to 90 the difference is huge.


First off, i tried switching out a rare titanium shield with leo craft just to see whether ill degen, and the truth is i will degen but i regen fast enough. But however i do not like the idea of my ES shield going down and up by like a few 100 es. Any way to maintain it at max forever without +1 max res in chayula?

Secondly, i did have a lvl 23 purity of fire and vitality on.

But with ROTF, the 8 max res is just too good. Just wanted to ask, our max res is more important in prventing us from degen am i right?


Max res, regen, rdot.

Did you have 5rdot on pantheon? Did you have 5 fire rdot on pantheon? You don't need +1maxres ammy. Check the reviews on the 2nd post of the first page where people have linked their gear.

Work on your es pool and sustaining rf first, damage second
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Last edited by Ahfack on Sep 16, 2017, 12:33:43 PM
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Ahfack wrote:
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SeanTay92 wrote:
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asdrockyasd wrote:
I don't know why ppl messing around with rise of the phoneix here. A high ES shield with reduced overtime dmg taken and pantheon with reduced over time damage taken is much more better.(i can do -12 max res maps or vuln. maps as well you really dont need that unique shield).AFter i got more than 8k ES the build started to getting really strong, but until that happened meh xd...so you realy cant miss a good ES shield with Leo craft.

1.
If you are using rise of the phoenix there is absolutely no point having a 6 link shavs since you cant go low life with RF and cant have the dmg boost for SR.

2.
I would recomend getting a cheap shavs(NOT a 6 link) and buying the presence of chayula amulet from your remaining currency.
You will have high enough dmg from rf alone to run any T15 maps just withRF.
If you add a 4 link Scorhing ray with faster casting(obviously for the debuff) you will be capable of killing the guardians as well(except phoenix) and end game izaro easily.

3.
If you are using a +2 sceptre then get Opal rings with inc fire dmg enchant they really boost your dmg.

4.
Get as much ES as you can but with rise of the phoneix you can't really do that.


I think those are the 4 most important thing you should do in order to fix up your slightly working build into a fine enjoyable build.

Almost forgot to mention: lvl up at least to 90 the difference is huge.


First off, i tried switching out a rare titanium shield with leo craft just to see whether ill degen, and the truth is i will degen but i regen fast enough. But however i do not like the idea of my ES shield going down and up by like a few 100 es. Any way to maintain it at max forever without +1 max res in chayula?

Secondly, i did have a lvl 23 purity of fire and vitality on.

But with ROTF, the 8 max res is just too good. Just wanted to ask, our max res is more important in prventing us from degen am i right?


Max res, regen, rdot.

Did you have 5rdot on pantheon? Did you have 5 fire rdot on pantheon? You don't need +1maxres ammy. Check the reviews on the 2nd post of the first page where people have linked their gear.

Work on your es pool and sustaining rf first, damage second


Yes, my pantheons are all working. my current es pool is 8763k. i cn sustain rf without flask. I am level 90. What im asking is, i still will see the value of my es going up and down if i switched to a leo crafted 5% rdot shield. Am i doing something wrong? i have lvl 23 purity of fire too(I tested it with vertex+empower just to cap my max res at 82% instead of 83% like ahfack). The only thing missing is that 1% max res. But overall, i can sustain rf. Just that the idea of the es value going up and down by 50-60 is not something i wish to see.
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Ahfack wrote:
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SeanTay92 wrote:
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asdrockyasd wrote:
I don't know why ppl messing around with rise of the phoneix here. A high ES shield with reduced overtime dmg taken and pantheon with reduced over time damage taken is much more better.(i can do -12 max res maps or vuln. maps as well you really dont need that unique shield).AFter i got more than 8k ES the build started to getting really strong, but until that happened meh xd...so you realy cant miss a good ES shield with Leo craft.

1.
If you are using rise of the phoenix there is absolutely no point having a 6 link shavs since you cant go low life with RF and cant have the dmg boost for SR.

2.
I would recomend getting a cheap shavs(NOT a 6 link) and buying the presence of chayula amulet from your remaining currency.
You will have high enough dmg from rf alone to run any T15 maps just withRF.
If you add a 4 link Scorhing ray with faster casting(obviously for the debuff) you will be capable of killing the guardians as well(except phoenix) and end game izaro easily.

3.
If you are using a +2 sceptre then get Opal rings with inc fire dmg enchant they really boost your dmg.

4.
Get as much ES as you can but with rise of the phoneix you can't really do that.


I think those are the 4 most important thing you should do in order to fix up your slightly working build into a fine enjoyable build.

Almost forgot to mention: lvl up at least to 90 the difference is huge.


First off, i tried switching out a rare titanium shield with leo craft just to see whether ill degen, and the truth is i will degen but i regen fast enough. But however i do not like the idea of my ES shield going down and up by like a few 100 es. Any way to maintain it at max forever without +1 max res in chayula?

Secondly, i did have a lvl 23 purity of fire and vitality on.

But with ROTF, the 8 max res is just too good. Just wanted to ask, our max res is more important in prventing us from degen am i right?


Max res, regen, rdot.

Did you have 5rdot on pantheon? Did you have 5 fire rdot on pantheon? You don't need +1maxres ammy. Check the reviews on the 2nd post of the first page where people have linked their gear.

Work on your es pool and sustaining rf first, damage second



Anyway ahfack!! Thank you for the time spent in replying. Appreciate it. Never had so much fun in a build before this. Tanky and able to kill almost everything within blink of an eye. Just need to get essence crafted which i dunno when will happen. THANK YOU!!!
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SeanTay92 wrote:
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asdrockyasd wrote:
I don't know why ppl messing around with rise of the phoneix here. A high ES shield with reduced overtime dmg taken and pantheon with reduced over time damage taken is much more better.(i can do -12 max res maps or vuln. maps as well you really dont need that unique shield).AFter i got more than 8k ES the build started to getting really strong, but until that happened meh xd...so you realy cant miss a good ES shield with Leo craft.

1.
If you are using rise of the phoenix there is absolutely no point having a 6 link shavs since you cant go low life with RF and cant have the dmg boost for SR.

2.
I would recomend getting a cheap shavs(NOT a 6 link) and buying the presence of chayula amulet from your remaining currency.
You will have high enough dmg from rf alone to run any T15 maps just withRF.
If you add a 4 link Scorhing ray with faster casting(obviously for the debuff) you will be capable of killing the guardians as well(except phoenix) and end game izaro easily.

3.
If you are using a +2 sceptre then get Opal rings with inc fire dmg enchant they really boost your dmg.

4.
Get as much ES as you can but with rise of the phoneix you can't really do that.


I think those are the 4 most important thing you should do in order to fix up your slightly working build into a fine enjoyable build.

Almost forgot to mention: lvl up at least to 90 the difference is huge.


First off, i tried switching out a rare titanium shield with leo craft just to see whether ill degen, and the truth is i will degen but i regen fast enough. But however i do not like the idea of my ES shield going down and up by like a few 100 es. Any way to maintain it at max forever without +1 max res in chayula?

Secondly, i did have a lvl 23 purity of fire and vitality on.

But with ROTF, the 8 max res is just too good. Just wanted to ask, our max res is more important in prventing us from degen am i right?




So idk if you saw the video i linked before but even when I was standing my ES didn't move an inch and I dont have that +1 res amulet or that phonenix shield.

The problem is you are aproaching this build as a pure RF build.

1. While on low life you cannot be ignited. This means pain atunement has no meaning your skill tree since you cant use rf on low life.
2. You put an SR gem in a 5 link while you use RF with only 4 link and not even essence crafted gloves.Wut? Why? I could undesrtand if you were saying that you have no currency for that.BUT you are not even supposed to use SR,,, just on bosses. Normal rare and blue mobs would get rekt from only RF in a proper setup as soon as you go over them.You cannot use the benefits what LL could give to SR so basically tha way you use SR is just usless you are not debuffing the bosses with SR fast enogh and you don't have the dps for SR to be worthy to use that in a 5 link setup.


What can I gain with Rise of the phoenix:
I would have like +600 Es regen instead of like +1-2 ES regen but if I need to get my ES back just step aside a bit and let the Guardian Ascendncy do its thing.Thats why Guardian so op.If it is not enough just use sorrow of the divine for 6%+regen.

I Checked out your build.
Here are the results:

Your DPS with RF without any calc or setting is 79513.8
My DPS with RF without any calc or setting is 222775.3
The difference in DPS is HUGE!!! And it wasn't even a buffed full DPS comparsion.
Just because you tried to make your build around the vertex and the rise of the phoenix.

You got about 8700ES while i got about 10150 ES. this is a huge difference as well.

Let me list how much Damage you are losing here:
Weapon actualy you got here +32% compared to my shitty sceptre but is that worthy? xD
Rings: at least -80%increased damage
Shield: at least -60%increased damage //belive it or not that fire dmg increase shields are cheap as hell and you can always annoul to get place for LEO craft//
Gloves: you cant be rich but -30 more overtime dmg is a huge loss for RF
Chest: you are not using LL only have 5 link avaiable for sr you should use sr in a 4 link as a debuff vs bosses and not as main damage when your whole build has the pure RF approach to it.
No pain atunement thats another -30more spell dmg.

-108% increased damage loss for your RF and SR
-30 more damage loss for your RF and without pain attunement you lose 30-more spell dmg for your sr.

Defense loss:
If you are not reaching pain atunement I can say you are losing a lot armor as well.
You are losing a lot enregy shield because you don't have a rare shield.

I know some upgrades takes a "little" amount of currency but if you plan on upgrading your build, you should really drop that shield and the mask as well if you cant get resist from the rings.
And try to use up as much mana as you can since it gives more ES.

Ahfack did really great job "balancing" this build.

If you check out my build it is almost the same as his but with trash rares xD.

I just slamed some high ILV stuff with essences and thats what you need to do to get your items. no need to pay a fortune.And i don't think anyone on poe.trade values that high fire dmg shields and iIhope their prices will be down for a while :D



Last edited by asdrockyasd on Sep 16, 2017, 1:29:05 PM

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