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What do you think is more beneficial? I noticed you didn't have Presence of Chayula in your priority list.

Watchers eye with ES on disc or Presence?

I can afford 1 right now, I have my pens, shavs (5L), elder ring.


I'm just wondering which would be more beneficial, i don't know if I want to go spider.
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EnrageDlol wrote:
What do you think is more beneficial? I noticed you didn't have Presence of Chayula in your priority list.

Watchers eye with ES on disc or Presence?

I can afford 1 right now, I have my pens, shavs (5L), elder ring.


I'm just wondering which would be more beneficial, i don't know if I want to go spider.


I think the Watchers Eye. There are good alternatives for the Presence (especially if you go Vile Bastion in the asendancy) - even rare amulets can be very good. This makes the Presence of Chayula way more replaceable then the Watchers Eye.

In addition the presence of Chayula can be farmed by yourself in an okay-ish manner via Zana Dailys. Try to always do the maps that require you to close breaches and you will get it eventually.

The Watchers Eye is a bit more luck dependant I feel like. Its certainly possible to farm Elder/UberElder but the chance to hit the exact mod you want is rather low. :(

Thank you for the insightful response, this is pretty much what i figured in my head.


I'm still fairly "new" to this game than most, im just starting to get the hang of the true aspects of the game (item mods, heh).

I'm excited to do low-life properly this time around, last time I was just a glass cannon MFer.


I'm only level 21 and I dumped 9ex today because of how much I missed my VD PP build.

These weapons are so great :)
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Cyrix1337 wrote:
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shadowrs wrote:
Dexterity is such a struggle, I just can't give up my current amulet for neither choir of the storm nor presence of chayula.

Borderline debating on giving up a jewel slot for that one jewel that transforms int to dex in its radius (but I'll lose some resist and crit multipliers).

Also I can't use grace at all right now (don't even if I'll be able to at all) it uses up way too much mana reserve.

Would you mind taking a look at my character and see if you can offer any suggestions?


Thats what I would do at your current level:

You need one Enlighten lv4 for the Grace Aurastuff I think - it still works with a lv 3 one - but Mana might be a bit to tight. Best to test that. A lv 3 enlighten should not be expensive. (couple chaos at most I think)

https://pastebin.com/nWkLwFUa

Thats how I would go about to level to 94 if I wanted to use grace:

https://pastebin.com/226GnKTw

Please note: I did not create any new gear in the PoB - I just used the stuff you had available. You might be able to make it work in a different way/better with better gear. But for now I think that might help you out.


Thanks, that actually helps a lot :D

As far as enlighten supports goes, lvl 4 to buy is like 7 ex and lvl 3 is around 80c, that's gonna be my absolute last priority for now I think. I currently have a lvl 2.3ish one so I'm just gonna grind it out, it's +20 quality so 100% increased exp gain for it. I don't think enlighten level 4 will save me, but I'll see. If I'm gonna be running arctic armour, I pretty much NEED that enchant on the helm where its 30% reduced mana reserve.

I'm just running 4 auras atm (HoT, Wrath, Disc, PoE), can't afford to run anymore, tried all different combos.

I guess I'll try to spec into more %max life and %incr mana nodes like deep thoughts etc to see if I can get more mana to work with while still being efficient.
Last edited by shadowrs#0988 on Sep 9, 2018, 9:11:07 PM
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EnrageDlol wrote:
I'm only level 21 and I dumped 9ex today because of how much I missed my VD PP build.

These weapons are so great :)

I'm doing a PP VD build this league and I'm missing this Arc/LW build :/
400 Alts and no "Curse on hit" mod. Am I missing something as far as crafting this ring? Thinking of taking that cheap unique ring for now.
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Went from Tri Herald Elementalist > ArcPoet Elementalist to this and gotta say its been doing great, still need my mark of the shaper and maybe a better curse on hit ring with some dex or something but other than that its doing great.

Is a 40% arc damage enchant comparable to arc chains an additional time?
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shadowrs wrote:


Thanks, that actually helps a lot :D

As far as enlighten supports goes, lvl 4 to buy is like 7 ex and lvl 3 is around 80c, that's gonna be my absolute last priority for now I think. I currently have a lvl 2.3ish one so I'm just gonna grind it out, it's +20 quality so 100% increased exp gain for it. I don't think enlighten level 4 will save me, but I'll see. If I'm gonna be running arctic armour, I pretty much NEED that enchant on the helm where its 30% reduced mana reserve.

I'm just running 4 auras atm (HoT, Wrath, Disc, PoE), can't afford to run anymore, tried all different combos.

I guess I'll try to spec into more %max life and %incr mana nodes like deep thoughts etc to see if I can get more mana to work with while still being efficient.


Oh wow they are still expensive. They tend to go cheaper the longer the league goes. But yeah, if you are already leveling some up then its probs not worth it. Just run without one Aura for now and once you get the enlightens to lv 3 you can use them all again.

In the pobs I made for you please also check the skillgems and the locations I put them on in your gear. just with lv3 enlightens you can run all the auras of yours.


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RavioliMusick wrote:
400 Alts and no "Curse on hit" mod. Am I missing something as far as crafting this ring? Thinking of taking that cheap unique ring for now.


No, I think you are just super unlucky. :( I recently crafted a couple of those rings:
with about 500 Alteration Orbs.

So either I am really lucky (I dunno - I craft those rings kinda often) or PoE did hate you on your attempt. RNG is really annoying at times.

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