[3.5] Indigon Life/MoM Mjolner done right (all content viable)

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mortenaa wrote:

Can this build do yellow maps without voll ? Er even work ?

Yes up to t7 without volls.

Any tips for keeping Shaper alive in the Zana questline?

I've tried twice on a T15 Elder and can't keep him alive in the fourth portal phase. I think it's primarily Cyclone not being a pinpoint control skill so it's very hard to quickly react to the spawns. This is the first time ever this happens to me, being an experienced player, so I'm getting a bit frustrated.


Additionally, would there be any point in taking the two Area of Effect nodes north of Witch instead of two of the Int nodes to the northwest of her starting position (just to the right of Elemental Overload)?

You lose 20 Int but gain 20% increased AoE, which would benefit both Cyclone and Discharge.

@Bizee79 A tip from my Juggernaut thread is to protect Shaper with frost wall. If u have enough int than sure go for AoE.

Can you check mine? My damage was so low and my cyclone only cost 100mana with indigon. But when I see your video..it is used much more Mana like 2x 3x than mine.

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azyanheidi wrote:

Can you check mine? My damage was so low and my cyclone only cost 100mana with indigon. But when I see your video..it is used much more Mana like 2x 3x than mine.

Hey, everything is fine you just need to lvl up your gems and character. There will be huge difference when u reach lvl 20 Discharge and Arc and also when u lvl up your character and take remaining +1 power and +1 endurance charges.

After that take remaining mana nodes behind Mind over Matter and than take Quick Recovery cluster for +mana regen and +life.

Next step will be trying to 6link your chest (or buying 6linked) so you can swap one Fevered Mind for good attack speed jewel. This will help you reach ~5 APS with cyclone.

Hi there Rico,
Could you please take a look at mine because my damage is very low compared to yours on PoB. Am I doing something wrong?

https://pastebin.com/VTxKvurU

Hi Rico,
I see you're trying The Red Trail boots. I tested it out a bit. My conclusion is sometimes if hard hitting monster apply bleeding on you via this boots is't like impossible to endure and I was dying regardless of our crazy sustain.
The second thing is I created a spreadsheet to calculate average number of generated charges including lack of Inya's boots like in experiment with The Red Trail.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/abv8xu/mjolner_charges_generation_calculator/
I think it's everything ok with the formulas, everything looks reliable, but i need some proof from experienced players.
I hope it will be useful

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DoT_Misha wrote:

Hi Rico,
I see you're trying The Red Trail boots. I tested it out a bit. My conclusion is sometimes if hard hitting monster apply bleeding on you via this boots is't like impossible to endure and I was dying regardless of our crazy sustain.
The second thing is I created a spreadsheet to calculate average number of generated charges including lack of Inya's boots like in experiment with The Red Trail.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/abv8xu/mjolner_charges_generation_calculator/
I think it's everything ok with the formulas, everything looks reliable, but i need some proof from experienced players.
I hope it will be useful

Im using those boots on my Witch build with few tricks to counter those kind of scenarious. I played like 50 T12-T16 maps (several Guardians and Uber Atziri included) with those boots on standard. Died of bleed only vs Uber Atziri because of bleed + ignite stack. For this build (Indigon Inquisitor) Inyas are far better choice. That said im playing Witch in Betrayal, so far doing yellow maps with "alch&go" method (no matter the mods) and I didnt have much problems, some Syndicate fights where close to rippy thou.

Regarding calculator I dont have time right now to look into it, maybe tomorrow.

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RicoKGB wrote:

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lalib wrote:

Let's say I really didn't like Cyclone, what could I do instead? Gonna level this build in a few days and try some alternative Mjolner triggers.

Static Strike? Charged Dash?

In order this to work you need 3 things from a melee skill: 1) at least 10 hits per sec, 2) at least 70 mana cost per use, 3) at least 3 attacks per sec without multistrike. Hint: it is hard to do with everything else than cyclone as a trigger.

If u cant play with cyclone try my Witch mjolner (link bellow).

Thanks for the advice! I did like the balance between damage and survivability the Templar offered so I leveled it up to 80.

I was able to farm Iceberg maps without Indigon using mostly Shield Charge from level 66 to 80. Started off with Foible amulet to make equipping Mjolner easier, used Silver flask for Onslaught, and Goldrim for resists. Got the Glacier Hideout xD

I must say that with high attack and move speed Cyclone feels very fun, and shield Charge with Onslaught + MoveSpeed Quicksilver is a dream. Very happy I stuck with Templar version.

Still on a 5-link, so I just need to fiddle around with resists and mana costs to start using Indigon and get used to the mana drain.

Loving the build!

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RicoKGB wrote:

@Bizee79 A tip from my Juggernaut thread is to protect Shaper with frost wall. If u have enough int than sure go for AoE.

Well... I tried this. First portal phase was fine, but during the second I started to get microstutters. During the third I got wild FPS swings and during fourth I could barely see anything of the fight. One second the Shaper was alive with frost walls stacked all over him - next second Elder was free and I Alt+F4 to try another day.

I don't know if this was an isolated issue or if Frost Wall is bugged. Elder is in Primordial Blocks - so that new map may have something to do with it too...

Anyway, I'm definitely not sane anymore.

EDIT: Tried again and changed my game settings from windowed fullscreen to fullscreen and didn't have any lag. Frost Wall saved the day. =)