[3.21] Vatinas' Spiders + HoP Guardian - CI, 70K armour, 1400 ES on block, millions of DPS

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nitetime wrote:

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BowWizard wrote:

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nitetime wrote:

I often find myself without spiders so im trying to understand the trigger mechanic and why they aren't refreshing.

When the spiders kill something, do they refresh themselves?

When the sentinels kill something do they trigger the spiders?

or is the only way to trigger the spiders is when I kill something myself?

It's your character killing plus the Fang that create spiders.

Sentinels can't trigger spiders since they do not have the Fang (theoretically an AG could summon them if you equipped it with a Fang and they killed an enemy. That could maybe "auto spawn" spiders but don't know how reliable that would be)

Spiders are on a timer of about 73 seconds. If you aren't killing anything by then they will expire on you and you have to use desecrate and writhing jar to summon new ones.

This is what is making shaper/sirus fights so annoying. With all the 'stages' the spiders keep expiring and even if im cycloning right on top of shaper I only have like 2 sentinels out at a time. Not the best build for these endgame bosses :(

Also I noticed Slava is using divine ire, is that better than cyclone to trigger the sentinels?

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BowWizard wrote:

In the reference POB both in the configuration tab "Is the enemy are intimidated" and "Is the enemy unnerved" are both selected. Where does the intimidation and unnerved come from in the setup (gems, jewels, skill tree, etc) ?

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The idea would be to have a 4L for Dom Blow (which you should upgrade to a 5L asap), a 3L for HoP, and a 2L for your Holy Relic (Minion Damage), even though the last 2L is really optional.

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monerz wrote:

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The idea would be to have a 4L for Dom Blow (which you should upgrade to a 5L asap), a 3L for HoP, and a 2L for your Holy Relic (Minion Damage), even though the last 2L is really optional.

Even though this is the leveling portion and not that important, as a new player and reading through your leveling guide from act 1 to maps, I never saw you say when to get dominating blow. Do you get it 4 linked when you get to maps, or is there something I am missing? You had the gems to pick up highlighted when going through the acts, but then in the Mapping section, say that I should have a 4 linked Dominating blow, just confused!

Thanks in advance this build looks really fun and I want to play it but kinda confused!

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monerz wrote:

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The idea would be to have a 4L for Dom Blow (which you should upgrade to a 5L asap), a 3L for HoP, and a 2L for your Holy Relic (Minion Damage), even though the last 2L is really optional.

Even though this is the leveling portion and not that important, as a new player and reading through your leveling guide from act 1 to maps, I never saw you say when to get dominating blow. Do you get it 4 linked when you get to maps, or is there something I am missing? You had the gems to pick up highlighted when going through the acts, but then in the Mapping section, say that I should have a 4 linked Dominating blow, just confused!

Thanks in advance this build looks really fun and I want to play it but kinda confused!