[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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Cutlaz wrote:

I see, thanks for that! So when making changes to the build e.g. allocating a 10 point intelligence node that would make a 1.2% increase in 'DPS', this change in damage to one shard can be generalized to increasing the overall dps of the build?

Yes. If damage a shard does is increased by 1.2%, that means damage 1257048653 shards do is increased by 1.2% and so on. And since the Icestorm damage is so much higher than damage from other sources, you can practically count dps of other sources to be 0.

Only exception worth considering is Profane Bloom if you are playin witch.

Okay, for the Ascendant version of this build, would Mark of the Shaper be an option to help with consistent clearing? The 20% trigger on kill seems like it has a lot of base cold damage, and it's spell damage so it would be buffed by the int-based spell damage.

It would of course be an int loss, but just wondering if it would be an option. My experience so far seems that the damage is very decent, even with the very limited gear I have, but that AoE isn't that big and that clearing everything takes some time.

Edit: and an unrelated question. What is the reason for only levelling the CwC gem to level 15?

You guys playing ascendant -- how tanky are you feeling?

Do you get consistently one shot at least once per map? Or do you just facetank sentinel-augmented mobs of blue and rares?

The witch version seems unusually squishy this league, so was wondering if that was uniform (due to the buffed magic and rares) or limited to the witch.

(I'll say my ascendant on Standard feels quite strong in T16 maps even with the new magic/rare mobs.)

Could someone please send/post me a link for the classic POB tree? As the only ones that I can find in the description are the cluster ones. Thanks

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crazydogy wrote:

Could someone please send/post me a link for the classic POB tree? As the only ones that I can find in the description are the cluster ones. Thanks

yeah there used to be a Classic version, but I have lost it. Usually it's linked with the others.

For those asking about the classic tree. I'm assuming he removed it because it's just kind of redundant at this point.

The budget cluster one is very cheap/easy since you literally just need to grab the worst version of the cluster/splits you can find. If you don't have those yet and have more point just any int travel or jewel for int conversion will work in the meantime.

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mysticturtle12 wrote:

For those asking about the classic tree. I'm assuming he removed it because it's just kind of redundant at this point.

The budget cluster one is very cheap/easy since you literally just need to grab the worst version of the cluster/splits you can find. If you don't have those yet and have more point just any int travel or jewel for int conversion will work in the meantime.

Fair point, but it was a decent tree for leveling from 30 to 80 before you switch to even budget clusters.

A couple of comments.

1. The Scion classic tree is very close to the Witch classic tree. I took my current Witch tree (partly on the way to the cluster version) and made it a Scion tree. See https://pastebin.com/mEjETwnB.

2. You can still use cluster jewels in the classic tree. You heed to respec ONLY if you have TWO intelligence split personality gems. 8 passive CttC/Widespread Destruction gems are pretty cheap (~10c) and give you CttC at the cost of 5 passive points.

Anyone have any strong opinions on this belt I'm using? I don't see it mentioned anywhere, but the ES and % int combined just seems too good to give up

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RaGe0uS wrote:

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mysticturtle12 wrote:

For those asking about the classic tree. I'm assuming he removed it because it's just kind of redundant at this point.

The budget cluster one is very cheap/easy since you literally just need to grab the worst version of the cluster/splits you can find. If you don't have those yet and have more point just any int travel or jewel for int conversion will work in the meantime.

Fair point, but it was a decent tree for leveling from 30 to 80 before you switch to even budget clusters.

The leveling tree in the guide has the tree up until level 92 if you can't get ahold of clusters/splits.