[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

Having some trouble figuring out where to upgrade next, other than a chest piece that is pretty expensive. Damage is fine mostly, but I'm still about 1000 int away from the final build (sitting at about 1900 rn.) I'm also pretty squishy in t16 maps still, and at a loss for what to upgrade next. PoB below, thank you!

https://pastebin.com/75AfF1Y2

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Memeinator wrote:

Having some trouble figuring out where to upgrade next, other than a chest piece that is pretty expensive. Damage is fine mostly, but I'm still about 1000 int away from the final build (sitting at about 1900 rn.) I'm also pretty squishy in t16 maps still, and at a loss for what to upgrade next. PoB below, thank you!

https://pastebin.com/75AfF1Y2

Stupidly tiny and might just be a PoB bug with how it imports clusters. But fix your pathing for your Splits if its not PoB shows you cutting on short. On that point ES/Int splits are 1ex atm which is a pretty significant defense boost at 1k+ ES.

Some slight tree optimizations is you shouldn't need the upper leech cluster near the jewel socket. Switching the mastery to the far right will save you some points. As well as some easy int by moving your pure talent to the Scion star for 1 point and using a brute force in that spot instead.

Gear points. Attribute quality your built is a super quick option.

Gloves you can pretty easily get a nice ES + Int + Res glove with an open suffix for maybe 10-20c and then another 20ish i think atm for Aspect of the spider.

A divine on your staff itself to up the 14% would go a good deal as well.

Also you're not capped on lightning res so thats definitely going to hurt.

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Mech_ wrote:

I think my biggest complaint if you'll call it that is clear speed. Having the occultists pops would be insanely nice but defintiely not needed. Bigger AoE might be a good thing as well, who knows.

I really liked getting one of my cluster jewels with the Unspeakable Gifts passive, its like a mini Occultist pop. I got the jewel for 1ex, but besides that was only 1 passive point investment for it.


I have also been dropping Elemental Proliferation from my gems, and instead picking up Blast-Freeze on one of my clusters as well. Replacing it with Cold Penetration support, so something like a Frostweaver pack doesn't kill my clear speed. Could also try with a Inc. AoE support gem as well.

Quick question -- does Elemental Damage with Attack Skills apply to CwC Icestorm for this build?

Not sure if that interaction works out at all.

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MalcontentBunny wrote:

Quick question -- does Elemental Damage with Attack Skills apply to CwC Icestorm for this build?

Not sure if that interaction works out at all.

No. Icestorm is a spell.

The build has obvious problems like that it is triggering ice storm with cwc which the point of that support is that you are using two 5l simultanously, but he is using cyclone, which he cant even hit with since he has no accuracy. He might as well just drop cyclone and self cast it since it does nothing for the build really. On top of that he is int stacking with a skill that has been subpar since its rework

There are other weird choices like why is he getting increased skill effect duration? Icestorm doesn't really scale with it

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bard2000 wrote:

The build has obvious problems like that it is triggering ice storm with cwc which the point of that support is that you are using two 5l simultanously, but he is using cyclone, which he cant even hit with since he has no accuracy. He might as well just drop cyclone and self cast it since it does nothing for the build really. On top of that he is int stacking with a skill that has been subpar since its rework

There are other weird choices like why is he getting increased skill effect duration? Icestorm doesn't really scale with it

Arcane Surge.

And btw the build is really strong. I effortlessly cleared the Feared with it last season. The only drawback is the price, the gear is very expensive.

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bard2000 wrote:

The build has obvious problems like that it is triggering ice storm with cwc which the point of that support is that you are using two 5l simultanously, but he is using cyclone, which he cant even hit with since he has no accuracy. He might as well just drop cyclone and self cast it since it does nothing for the build really. On top of that he is int stacking with a skill that has been subpar since its rework

There are other weird choices like why is he getting increased skill effect duration? Icestorm doesn't really scale with it

You probably shouldn't critique builds with such a limited amount of game knowledge.

Hi, I've been watching this build since MANY MANY leagues ago, too scared to try it out for lack of game knowledge.

This league I said fuck it, let's try. I figured I had enough game knowledge to make it work but I guess I didn't as I'm 2-2.5 ex deep into this one and hard stuck at T12 maps.

I can't seem to scale my int over 1600 without multiple ex worth of investment at this point and I'm at a loss entirely on how to become viable in T13+

Here's a snapshot from POB -- perhaps someone can tell me what I've done wrong...

https://pastebin.com/CiJrQrWx

Thanks in advance.

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Reanmachine wrote:

Hi, I've been watching this build since MANY MANY leagues ago, too scared to try it out for lack of game knowledge.

This league I said fuck it, let's try. I figured I had enough game knowledge to make it work but I guess I didn't as I'm 2-2.5 ex deep into this one and hard stuck at T12 maps.

I can't seem to scale my int over 1600 without multiple ex worth of investment at this point and I'm at a loss entirely on how to become viable in T13+

Here's a snapshot from POB -- perhaps someone can tell me what I've done wrong...

https://pastebin.com/CiJrQrWx

Thanks in advance.

Im lvl 89 with 9.3k es and almost 2.1k int dancing through t16s. Looking at your tree it seems you didnt follow the pob quite right. You are missing a fertile mind on the right side of the tree, and you took some unnecessary passive wheels. you absolutely need 2 large clusters with cold to the core. By doing the fertile mind on the right side, you will adding more int to your build by a) pathing using just +10int nodes and b) having more nodes between your start and split personalities. Its a bit of a grind, but a synthesized %int belt with attribute qual is extremely worth it. You cand find 6-8% ones for around 100c-1ex.

Heres my pob for reference: https://pastebin.com/PhvyF5E0