Bought my long-awaited Herald of agony memory vault and +1 socketed gems skins of the loyal.
This is now the strongest ever Build in ALL LEAGUES that I have ever played with DPS nearing 6M and my ES going to 20k. In fact, all things considered(tankiness and DPS), I would say that this build is even stronger than my extremely minmaxed and juiced Necromancer.
Some changes:
-Have done everything deathless, don't even need to evade shaper's slam anymore
-After getting the Stoneskin flayers, I respecced out of the minion regen nodes.
Reason? You don't need it, these buggers don't ever die, nothing even tickles their HP.
-Tested animate guardian as well - and I concluded that you don't need it at all. Reason is you don't need the extra tankiness at all given that you're already almost unkillable.
-I am now in the process of crafting a shaper amulet that will be BIS:
Strength/dex amulet base
12% increased attributes
50+ strength
30+ all attributes
Anointed with Ravenous horde
I am considering to respec pantheon to Brine king for the stun immunity and take time of need instead for even more tankiness. Reason for that is I am pretty much already capped on block when I use rumi's concoction. Also, I never felt that chain was a particularly big problem during my mapping/delving days. Any thoughts on that?
Last edited by lordangelic#2637 on Nov 18, 2019, 7:04:25 PM
Bought my long-awaited Herald of agony memory vault and +1 socketed gems skins of the loyal.
This is now the strongest ever Build in ALL LEAGUES that I have ever played with DPS nearing 6M and my ES going to 20k. In fact, all things considered(tankiness and DPS), I would say that this build is even stronger than my extremely minmaxed and juiced Necromancer.
Some changes:
-Have done everything deathless, don't even need to evade shaper's slam anymore
-After getting the Stoneskin flayers, I respecced out of the minion regen nodes.
Reason? You don't need it, these buggers don't ever die, nothing even tickles their HP.
-Tested animate guardian as well - and I concluded that you don't need it at all. Reason is you don't need the extra tankiness at all given that you're already almost unkillable.
-I am now in the process of crafting a shaper amulet that will be BIS:
Strength/dex amulet base
12% increased attributes
50+ strength
30+ all attributes
Anointed with Ravenous horde
I am considering to respec pantheon to Brine king for the stun immunity and take time of need instead for even more tankiness. Reason for that is I am pretty much already capped on block when I use rumi's concoction. Also, I never felt that chain was a particularly big problem during my mapping/delving days. Any thoughts on that?
Animated Guardian requires at least 10 passive points that don't do anything for our crawler, so yeah for this build it is not worth it.
I think either pantheon is fine, I haven't really experienced one-shot either, but in theory it can happen on maps with enemies that chain twice.
Can't wait for 3.9 with some new end game contents, for your gear level, everything outside of delve 1000+ is probably too easy. I would love to get some deep delve videos, especially Aul fights so we can show off our build's power.
The biggest question mark I have is with a truly decked out set up like yours, triple aura, is our build stronger or weaker than the decked out Baron Zombie guardian build in HC 1400's? If anyone can get a friend to take you to deep delve and do some recording there, will be greatly appreciated!
Last edited by hitmantb#6251 on Nov 19, 2019, 9:35:57 PM
Hitman, awesome build, been having a lot of fun with it! I started really late in this season(about 1.5-2weeks ago) so I'm just now barely getting to finalizing my build(just need 9ex for a WE and to craft a new wand), but I have a problem I'm not sure how to solve now.
I was spamming labs hoping to get +x crawler projectiles on my MV and happened upon this..
https://imgur.com/a/UkA3efv
I already have Circle of Nostalgia, enlighten etc, everything for mana res, and have been running skitter bots. What is your recomendation with all this free mana now(obviously i lost some es temporarily)?
I found I can't run another 25% aura/herald/fleshnstone outright. I would need to drop generosity to run one in the enlighten grouping.
I'm guessing I could get away with dropping skitterbots(35%) to jump to a 50% aura, especially in the enlighten grouping. Suggestions? Haste? Not sure.
Alternatively I could alter my tree drastically to drop reservation and focus on ES. Do you have a recommednation as to what that might look like?
I could also just drop enlighten.. for.. something? lol
Thanks again for the help. Awesome build, I love what they've done with guardian recently. They're so damn strong, you really have to *try* to die. lol.
Edit: My prof is public if you want to PoB it. Character is Epstiendidntkillhimself xD
Edit2: I *can* run haste over skitterbots. I guess I can pob to see which is the bigger increase. Edit: Seems like Enabling Shock is a lot bigger dps gain than even Vaal Haste.
Last edited by iNevermore#3947 on Nov 28, 2019, 4:00:37 PM
Hitman, awesome build, been having a lot of fun with it! I started really late in this season(about 1.5-2weeks ago) so I'm just now barely getting to finalizing my build(just need 9ex for a WE and to craft a new wand), but I have a problem I'm not sure how to solve now.
I was spamming labs hoping to get +x crawler projectiles on my MV and happened upon this..
https://imgur.com/a/UkA3efv
I already have Circle of Nostalgia, enlighten etc, everything for mana res, and have been running skitter bots. What is your recomendation with all this free mana now(obviously i lost some es temporarily)?
I found I can't run another 25% aura/herald/fleshnstone outright. I would need to drop generosity to run one in the enlighten grouping.
I'm guessing I could get away with dropping skitterbots(35%) to jump to a 50% aura, especially in the enlighten grouping. Suggestions? Haste? Not sure.
Alternatively I could alter my tree drastically to drop reservation and focus on ES. Do you have a recommednation as to what that might look like?
I could also just drop enlighten.. for.. something? lol
Thanks again for the help. Awesome build, I love what they've done with guardian recently. They're so damn strong, you really have to *try* to die. lol.
Edit: My prof is public if you want to PoB it. Character is Epstiendidntkillhimself xD
Edit2: I *can* run haste over skitterbots. I guess I can pob to see which is the bigger increase. Edit: Seems like Enabling Shock is a lot bigger dps gain than even Vaal Haste.
Clarity level is too high, try level 1 clarity and you should be able to triple aura hatred/skitter/flesh and stone with your gear.
Hitman, awesome build, been having a lot of fun with it! I started really late in this season(about 1.5-2weeks ago) so I'm just now barely getting to finalizing my build(just need 9ex for a WE and to craft a new wand), but I have a problem I'm not sure how to solve now.
I was spamming labs hoping to get +x crawler projectiles on my MV and happened upon this..
https://imgur.com/a/UkA3efv
I already have Circle of Nostalgia, enlighten etc, everything for mana res, and have been running skitter bots. What is your recomendation with all this free mana now(obviously i lost some es temporarily)?
I found I can't run another 25% aura/herald/fleshnstone outright. I would need to drop generosity to run one in the enlighten grouping.
I'm guessing I could get away with dropping skitterbots(35%) to jump to a 50% aura, especially in the enlighten grouping. Suggestions? Haste? Not sure.
Alternatively I could alter my tree drastically to drop reservation and focus on ES. Do you have a recommednation as to what that might look like?
I could also just drop enlighten.. for.. something? lol
Thanks again for the help. Awesome build, I love what they've done with guardian recently. They're so damn strong, you really have to *try* to die. lol.
Edit: My prof is public if you want to PoB it. Character is Epstiendidntkillhimself xD
Edit2: I *can* run haste over skitterbots. I guess I can pob to see which is the bigger increase. Edit: Seems like Enabling Shock is a lot bigger dps gain than even Vaal Haste.
Clarity level is too high, try level 1 clarity and you should be able to triple aura hatred/skitter/flesh and stone with your gear.
Ah i meant to disable that, thought I had. Which socket would you recommend dropping for flesh and stone? Seems to me best choices are inc duration, descration(excess mobs help offering duration, but its recast so often..) or convocation(useful forsure but not manditory imo). Thoughts?
Also is there any merit to another herald over sand stance? Is that what you would recommend running? I ask because I was hoping to get more damage out of my kit from my helm enchant, rather than more tankiness.
Hitman, awesome build, been having a lot of fun with it! I started really late in this season(about 1.5-2weeks ago) so I'm just now barely getting to finalizing my build(just need 9ex for a WE and to craft a new wand), but I have a problem I'm not sure how to solve now.
I was spamming labs hoping to get +x crawler projectiles on my MV and happened upon this..
https://imgur.com/a/UkA3efv
I already have Circle of Nostalgia, enlighten etc, everything for mana res, and have been running skitter bots. What is your recomendation with all this free mana now(obviously i lost some es temporarily)?
I found I can't run another 25% aura/herald/fleshnstone outright. I would need to drop generosity to run one in the enlighten grouping.
I'm guessing I could get away with dropping skitterbots(35%) to jump to a 50% aura, especially in the enlighten grouping. Suggestions? Haste? Not sure.
Alternatively I could alter my tree drastically to drop reservation and focus on ES. Do you have a recommednation as to what that might look like?
I could also just drop enlighten.. for.. something? lol
Thanks again for the help. Awesome build, I love what they've done with guardian recently. They're so damn strong, you really have to *try* to die. lol.
Edit: My prof is public if you want to PoB it. Character is Epstiendidntkillhimself xD
Edit2: I *can* run haste over skitterbots. I guess I can pob to see which is the bigger increase. Edit: Seems like Enabling Shock is a lot bigger dps gain than even Vaal Haste.
Clarity level is too high, try level 1 clarity and you should be able to triple aura hatred/skitter/flesh and stone with your gear.
Ah i meant to disable that, thought I had. Which socket would you recommend dropping for flesh and stone? Seems to me best choices are inc duration, descration(excess mobs help offering duration, but its recast so often..) or convocation(useful forsure but not manditory imo). Thoughts?
Also is there any merit to another herald over sand stance? Is that what you would recommend running? I ask because I was hoping to get more damage out of my kit from my helm enchant, rather than more tankiness.
Sand stance is really OP vs physical attacks, although you do not need it unless you are doing deep delve content.
You can free up 7 passive points if you don't use a third 25% aura with your set up (the left 4 points and bottom 3 points), and you can put the 7 passive points on minion damage), and change to level 1 clarity and level 1 ball of lightning.
Something like this:
https://pastebin.com/6drk4PUK
The problem is aura buffs on the left also add to your damage, so these 7 points don't give you that big of a damage buff. And Skitterbot 24% MORE is totally OP so no way to upgrade it to get a big buff. In fact all the 50% auras will reduce your damage.
I suggest just switch to blood stance instead of sand stance if you really need a little extra damage. And hope for another OP aura later. Do you really feel your damage is lacking? I switched to Baron Zombies with 1500 strength and think Herald of Agony damage is just at least as good.
Last edited by hitmantb#6251 on Nov 28, 2019, 9:47:59 PM
