[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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scrambled777 wrote:

Feeding Frenzy has two buffs, it has the temporary buff that may get applied on hit which gives damage and speed buffs to all minions. It also has a second permanent buff of more minion damage to only the minion skill it is linked to.

The permanent buff is gone and the temporary buff has been improved (44% chance from 25% chance) so overall this is a buff to HoAG since we only used the spectres to proc the temporary buff and never cared about the other one.

Thanks for the clarification.

Now I am still wondering if and how Spirit offering will be replaced.

As a mainly standard player I am at least happy that existing versions of Shapers touch, Grand Spectrum and Tempered Spirit will not get converted.

Build is dead boys, was fun while it lasted.

The build warped the HC meta way too much for GGG not to nerf it to the ground, and sadly they did.

To all of you still aiming to play this build, wait a bit until the meta has settled, in the worst case we might just be straight up worse than a vortex occultist this league.

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CutieSabba wrote:

Herald of Agony
Agony Crawler now deals 5% increased physical damage per Virulence you have at gem level 1 (from 6%), up to 9% at gem level 20 (from 12%).
this is nothing tbh
This was needed cause of the jewel that gives +5 virulence stacks

the spirit offering nerf is a bit yikes i guess but even so we used it more for dmg then anything else
the spectres nerf and this makes it so they are more squishy i guesss

the grandspectrum nerf is big but yah with the new jewels you can make it so its not that big
since you can get insane stats with them
shapers touch prob will still be bis i think
but yah in general we are the same
happy they didnt nerfed us that much

The build seems significantly weaker. The 3% per virulence stack is actually pretty good chunk of damage. In my build in particular i went from 4.2M dps to 2.6M. If i am correct, you can get an idea by doing some math 9% * 40 stacks is 360 bonus damage. Divide that by 12 and you see its about equal to having 30 stacks now. Change your stacks number in POB to see what it would do to your damage.) What jewel were you talking about with regards to additional viruelence stacks? We will probably have to put in place of one of the Grand spectrum's to boost damage, and then look at getting nice rare jewels with mana, es, and minion damage rolls.

Fairly Big ES nerfs. Grand Spectrum's, Shaper's Touch, Guardian Passive, Tempered Spirit. Pulling Grand Spectrums i lost over 2k ES and 5k armor on my build alone.

Everyone's POB would be fairly different i assume so i will post mine just in case folks were curious. If I'm wrong about something please let me know.

https://pastebin.com/GX0QJp54

RIP
nerfs are too big for such an expensive character to play anymore
I'm gonna look for another tank :s

Well not suprised with the nerfs...

Do you think it is worth going for this char in standard, assuming I already have all the items? Or the nerfs to ascendancy and skills alone make it not worth it?
I decided to take a break from the league and wanted to make this char in standard, but now I don't know if it is worth the time.

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Wicket666 wrote:

Do you think it is worth going for this char in standard, assuming I already have all the items? Or the nerfs to ascendancy and skills alone make it not worth it?
I decided to take a break from the league and wanted to make this char in standard, but now I don't know if it is worth the time.

The nerf is far less significant in standard, as a standard only player I am totally fine with it.

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mickygotbigballs wrote:

Build is dead boys, was fun while it lasted.

The build warped the HC meta way too much for GGG not to nerf it to the ground, and sadly they did.

To all of you still aiming to play this build, wait a bit until the meta has settled, in the worst case we might just be straight up worse than a vortex occultist this league.

I think we are easily competitive against Vortex Occultist, and that will be a T1 build this league, just pointless against Baron Necro and Mana Guardian so very very underplayed in 3.8 and 3.9. we will still have at least 1000-2000 more energy shield, and more shaper damage than them, plus vaal molten shell. And that is not a bad spot to be in.

From the ashes of Nerf Fire we shall arise new, stronger, better, HARDER! We are the Guardians of the Gal...Oriath, our judgment is swift and our pimp hands mighty! We still have +5 staff, we still have new notables to play with, we have new spectres, we still have 10k+ ES with new ways to bolster our mighty E-Regen to redumbassulous levels...WE ARE TE TEMPLARS!!!

We will have upgrade to 3.10 ?