[3.13] SIEGE BALLISTA HIEROPHANT Build > Iron Commander & 15 Ballistas! CHEAP LEAGUE STARTER!

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Psykrom wrote:

I'm really struggling with this even on a 4 link. With 6 totems it does so little damage despite iron commander. How do you even scale the damage further without hyrri's demise and fractal thoughts? Is leveling with it simply impossible?


POB export - white boots/gloves/chest cause I had it scrapped already.

You pretty much ignored the build as much as you could. No uniques with added damage to attacks, no rain of splinters. Not even one lab lol

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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

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Psykrom wrote:

I'm really struggling with this even on a 4 link. With 6 totems it does so little damage despite iron commander. How do you even scale the damage further without hyrri's demise and fractal thoughts? Is leveling with it simply impossible?


POB export - white boots/gloves/chest cause I had it scrapped already.

You pretty much ignored the build as much as you could. No uniques with added damage to attacks, no rain of splinters. Not even one lab lol

YES, really right!
I just follow this build exactly like Angry show, and it was a cake to lv up as a start league. Easy far from my Zombie summoner on last league.

Right now i'm running T4-T5 maps just to be fast, but already did a T10 map with no major problems.

Uber build and really fun to see everything ahead been smashed by all those Balistas.

I guess you are doing something extremelly wrong on following the build.

Hug.

V 1.3 Update (25/06/2020):
-POB updated. No real changes

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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

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Psykrom wrote:

I'm really struggling with this even on a 4 link. With 6 totems it does so little damage despite iron commander. How do you even scale the damage further without hyrri's demise and fractal thoughts? Is leveling with it simply impossible?


POB export - white boots/gloves/chest cause I had it scrapped already.

You pretty much ignored the build as much as you could. No uniques with added damage to attacks, no rain of splinters. Not even one lab lol

I didn't come here to rain on your parade, but as expected from a fresh start in a new league that was all gear I had on day one. As mentioned the white stuff was rare's of course, had some gloves with phys and elemental damage.

Before I made the switch I had the gems I needed already leveled, though the holy flame totem or purifying flame already did tripple the damage with less support gems.

So no advice aside from not having the gear? I don't see which unique's prior 62 could have made a difference. Hyrri's Demise prophecy is over 10c still, I had the bow and enough dex for 2 additional totems, rain of splinters was still too expensive or rather not in stock. It lowers the damage despite providing more projectiles as well. If you need build enabling items, it's not a league starter, is it?

I have leveled hundreds of characters by now and can't remember the last time I struggled as much with making a skill perform. Stacking dex and getting the additional elemental damage in return from specific uniques, I don't see much options to raise said damage a 5 or 6 link aside. The innate damage of the ballista skill is scaling terribly in the lower levels.

I probably would not have been able to kill Izaro with this, even if I kited him all day long. It doesn't matter, just expected a different attitude from someone I subbed.

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Psykrom wrote:

I don't see which unique's prior

Here's a problem. You ignored all levelling uniques and they are not expensive at all, 1 alch-1c max that help you progress through the very start of the game, like prismweave, sacrificial heart, and ESPECIALLY rain of splinters which is mandatory to have AOE.. You don't understand how the build functions i guess. It sure does stack dex and you get more ballistas and they kill things. But before that you need to stack whatever added attack damage possible. Because your ballistas are effectively your attacks.
No need to be pissed, you simply ignored the levelling tips.

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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

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Psykrom wrote:

I don't see which unique's prior

Here's a problem. You ignored all levelling uniques and they are not expensive at all, 1 alch-1c max that help you progress through the very start of the game, like prismweave, sacrificial heart, and ESPECIALLY rain of splinters which is mandatory to have AOE.. You don't understand how the build functions i guess. It sure does stack dex and you get more ballistas and they kill things. But before that you need to stack whatever added attack damage possible. Because your ballistas are effectively your attacks.
No need to be pissed, you simply ignored the levelling tips.

I traded what I could then and that was just enough for the quiver and bow.
Not being pissed, was just disappointed at your initial response. I got the jewel by now and will get said belt and amulet. Going to give it another try once I can get down to play tonight or tomorrow.

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Psykrom wrote:

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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

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Psykrom wrote:

I don't see which unique's prior

Here's a problem. You ignored all levelling uniques and they are not expensive at all, 1 alch-1c max that help you progress through the very start of the game, like prismweave, sacrificial heart, and ESPECIALLY rain of splinters which is mandatory to have AOE.. You don't understand how the build functions i guess. It sure does stack dex and you get more ballistas and they kill things. But before that you need to stack whatever added attack damage possible. Because your ballistas are effectively your attacks.
No need to be pissed, you simply ignored the levelling tips.

I traded what I could then and that was just enough for the quiver and bow.
Not being pissed, was just disappointed at your initial response. I got the jewel by now and will get said belt and amulet. Going to give it another try once I can get down to play tonight or tomorrow.

Bow and Quiver are mandatory for mid to late game when you start getting deep dex, but these cheap uniques give you a tonn of flat ele damage and are very important to kickstart early on, as bow will not give you much flat damage because of low dex.

hey, loving the build so far, lvl 74, have most gear, still need dex on rings and amulet oils...
wanted to ask, i checked updated tree... why did you stick with berserking?
totemic zeal looks better... or is there something i`m missing?

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TomTheBloody wrote:

hey, loving the build so far, lvl 74, have most gear, still need dex on rings and amulet oils...
wanted to ask, i checked updated tree... why did you stick with berserking?
totemic zeal looks better... or is there something i`m missing?

next to no difference, so i left it as is

After optimizing and getting the recommended items, it is playable now.
Thanks for the advice, will see how far I can take it from here.

Still think the skill is in dire need of a scaling re-balance in the early levels (damage and totem toughness). The totems can't take much of a beating, hopefully that will change with iron wood and ritual of awakening (deploying faster). I thought multiple totems was a good idea, but it's just too much of a dps loss with rain of splinters on top. Maybe late game with optimized gear.

Initially I was planning to play this as a Berserker, but seeing how badly they gutted the ascendancy (no more mana regen, only melee support) and how much build diversity died along with it, GGG has lost my trust and support for now.

I hope they wake up soon and realize what the players need is build diversity, not a dictated meta agenda. If we wanted a forced meta, we could just go back to D3, right?