Corona virus

If you don't have it, you certainly might by hanging out in a doctor's office. Pity they no longer make house calls.

I literally suspended some work we are doing in our house over fear of rusty nails. I will NOT go to get a tetanus shot. So no horsing around with dangerous stuff that could precipitate a quick trip to the doctor.

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kolyaboo wrote:

If you don't have it, you certainly might by hanging out in a doctor's office. Pity they no longer make house calls.

I literally suspended some work we are doing in our house over fear of rusty nails. I will NOT go to get a tetanus shot. So no horsing around with dangerous stuff that could precipitate a quick trip to the doctor.

This if you can manage it. Stay out of hospitals

That said, if you become ill or injured, and it's not something you can treat at home with nurse advice or first aid, don't wait until the last minute when you know you're in over your head.

--It will probably require you to be admitted to hospital, which will put you at greater risk
--You will be taking up resources and space that health teams have in scarce supply; merely being seen as an outpatient in your local clinic for something less severe is a lot easier on the system as it is now.
--By allowing your health problem to get worse, you are hurting your ability to fight any new illness including viruses, if you should get infected.

THis is one reason it's so important to have a public health nurse or doctor who knows you, is familiar with your history and living conditions. For instance, they might be less likely to send you to wait in urgent care for hours to be seen for a sprained ankle if they know you take care of both of your frail elderly parents at home, or have severe asthma.

I am a weird case. Because I sweat a lot I usually have itchy throat, sneeze a bit, sometimes cough once or twice. And this all happens everyday. On the flip side I very rarely get seriously sick. Right now my throat is itching and I sneezed like a motherfucker an hour ago but I am sure I am not sick at all, just the way I am.

people need to understand that other illness still exists. not every "flu-like symptoms" is coronavirus now. people are just freaking out

the most "pandemic" thing, more than the "virus" itself is PANIC. its absolutely contagious and its going to break the world at this rate

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xMustard wrote:

people need to understand that other illness still exists. not every "flu-like symptoms" is coronavirus now. people are just freaking out

the most "pandemic" thing, more than the "virus" itself is PANIC. its absolutely contagious and its going to break the world at this rate

Not exactly a great time for folks with seasonal rhinitis, i.e., hay fever. Folks'll wanna burn you at the stake! ='[.]'=

Sore throat at work today, suggested by other staff that I go home.
I work in medical equipment supply, spent most of last week working with elderly and in care facilities.
Doubt that I have "it" but may have to miss work nonetheless.

Just as a response to some of the overnight chatter here regarding how you're all travelling.

Again, just woke up. I'll leave it at that for now.

36.3c

I live in a small town in an area which is well known for the number of people who live "alternative" lifestyle.

Our community page on Facebook keeps getting comments like this:

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I heard from so many sources that all is a coverup for 5G...they don’t even have a covid19 test! No Virus can survive in an alkaline body!

I hope that alternate living doesn't result in too much alternative TO living.

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Months. That's what we hope we've prepared for, given Wuhan/China and then Italy, given the math and the global sluggishness for the major Western countries to respond. Months.

And we're barely a week into it. If a miracle vaccine isn't found and deemed okay for the masses, we're going to be a part of one of the worst years of living history. Airlines are going to go broke. Massive lay-offs in all sorts of industries and sectors. The elderly dying in their homes in the thousands, and then bewildered relatives unsure of what to do with the bodies. Shortages of things we all take for granted, things you probably can't even see coming. Rationed everything. Daily reminders of the haves and the have-nots, although both will be affected by this. And every health care worker, nurse, paramedic, doctor will be forced to act and think like soldiers, right down to choosing in the moment who to save and who to effectively kill.

Grim but difficult to refute if you follow the simplest of logic.

SO!

An interesting if unsubstantiated statistic popped from Wuhan the other day. I'll treat it like the curio it is: quite a few couples emerged from the forced quarantine and immediately filed for divorce. This rings true -- familiarity breeds contempt, and people forced to be near each other when they're used to healthy daily distance can quickly begin to grate. The lesson here is: if you do live with people, and you normally have distance (work, school, whatever), it's probably healthy to establish boundaries in your new daily routine. This likely isn't too big a problem for hardcore gamers, but it's worth remembering. You're really going to get to know whoever you're stuck with soon...try to not survive this only to end up hating them.

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I discussed the novel Underworld by DeLillo elsewhere, a lifetime ago. Among its multitudes, there is a section where legendary stand-up comedian and chronic antisocial Lenny Bruce delivers several routines at various clubs during the Cuban Missile Crisis. He would often interrupt his own stories and skits with a screech of 'we're all gonna die!', and people laughed, or didn't, but they usually did...even though their collective demise in a flash really was very, very possible at that point. This is, of course, different. We're not 'all gonna die' (although some of us will, and of course eventually all of us). This is a slower rot, if you can call something exponentially growing 'slow'. It's not death we fear so much as the dismantling of what we've long held as 'life'. I do wonder how modern comedians will keep that funny. Toilet paper jokes only go so far. Much like toilet paper itself.

Follow-up to what Dr John Campbell said yesterday re NSAIDs:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/health-experts-criticise-nhs-advice-to-take-ibuprofen-for-covid-19

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NHS guidance states that people managing Covid-19 symptoms at home should take paracetamol or ibuprofen.

“I would advise against that,” said Prof Ian Jones, a virologist at the University of Reading. “There’s good scientific evidence for ibuprofen aggravating the condition or prolonging it. That recommendation needs to be updated.”

Paul Little, a professor of primary care research at the University of Southampton, said: “The general feeling is that the French advice is fairly sensible. There is now a sizeable literature from case control studies in several countries that prolonged illness or the complications of respiratory infections may be more common when non-steroidal anti-inflammatories [NSAIDs] are used.”