Corona virus

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Johny_Snow wrote:

What about the migrants and refugees in the Middle east? They'll catch it eventually (if they haven't already). It'll be a slaughterhouse.

Imagine thinking people leaving warzones or actual poverty being phazed by a 2% death toll.
That's cute sir.

Peace,

-Boem-

Whats also cute is the panic that will spread among them and thus make their attempts to cross borders even more fierce. Or the virus mutating thanks to the millions hapless recipients.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

Whats also cute is the panic that will spread among them and thus make their attempts to cross borders even more fierce. Or the virus mutating thanks to the millions hapless recipients.

As if they needed corona to be motivated to leave their places.

And the mutation thing will happen anyway, a virus doesn't need a group of migrants for that it's motivated to do that constantly in order to survive.

Having a mutation occur in a large group is actually a bad thing for a virus it's survival since having multiple strains all over the place looking alike but being different offers far more survival.

And the virus culls the weak, nothing people living a harsh life aren't already familiar with.
That doesn't make it pleasant or palatable but nature rarely is uppon closer inspection.

They would lose people just like we are losing people with the difference that they probably already lost people to meaningless stuff before while most of us have not.

The thing to be fearfull of in situations like this are people like the impeacher utilizing group think to polarize people and use these events as political bludgeon tools to stir up emotions of people.
Finding black sheep to push the blame on in order to deliver the angst of a social group in distress is the last position you would wish on anybody.

But thats not panic to be fearfull of but instigation with ill intend.

Peace,

-Boem-

Well, hopefully they are dumb enough to stay where they are and slowly die. A migrant invasion could lead to some fun times like live rounds being used at the borders.

What do you mean?

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Johny_Snow wrote:

Well, hopefully they are dumb enough to stay where they are and slowly die. A migrant invasion could lead to some fun times like live rounds being used at the borders.

Hopefully they are smart, stay where they are and start building a society that protects future generations from the harships they went true.

Instead of fleeing their homeland, leaving it behind to rot for others who are born there?

I never understood this "free and open migration" rebranding tactic where somehow the first-world country's aren't stealing the best people from other society's away with advertisements of a "dream life".

It's entirely cynical of liberals and progressives to promote open migration while at the same time ignoring most of the issues in other country's and being unable to draw that line of connection.

But that's probably a derail and not something desirable to discuss given the CoC.

But i never had a progressive or liberal give a solid counter-argument when confronted with the fact that migration sucks other country's dry when it comes to potential.
If humans are the lifeblood of a society then migration is like a good medieval bloodletting under the same pretence of empathy and care.

Peace,

-Boem-

There is a war going on if you didn't know.

Thanks for stating the obvious, let me add on by stating something equally obvious.

Siphoning away the smart and productive people from a geographical location leaving only the uneducated and people who thrive on abuse and control by force helps prolong wars and conflict.

Peace,

-Boem-

I mean it's pretty academic in the end.

Eventually we will populate beyond sustainability(if we are not at that point now), resulting in pandemic disease that cannot be contained easily or at all (that is far more deadly), or there will be conflict over resources, or lastly an event beyond our control that descends us into chaos (meteor strike, solar flare, super volcano, etc...)

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Boem wrote:

Thanks for stating the obvious, let me add on by stating something equally obvious.

Siphoning away the smart and productive people from a geographical location leaving only the uneducated and people who thrive on abuse and control by force helps prolong wars and conflict.

Peace,

-Boem-

Oh hey, it's the classic "brain drain is bad, mkay" argument.

I don't believe brain drain is bad. It's natural to me that the most intelligent and productive people would seek the company of other intelligent and productive people, while the brutish would be left to associate with themselves. It just makes sense that the people would go to where they are values and where they share in the values of the native population.

What doesn't make sense is an idea that, as a circumstance of one's birth nationality, one has a duty to his ignorant and/or savage countrymen to somehow spare them from the system they've created for themselves. No, they fucking do not. The intelligent Syrian has no obligation to fix Syria, and to suggest he does is, deliberately or not, feeding into the fascist narrative that the individual exists to serve the state rather than the other way around. Because that's where this "brain drain" argument originally comes from: fascists on the internet.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

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Boem wrote:

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Johny_Snow wrote:

What about the migrants and refugees in the Middle east? They'll catch it eventually (if they haven't already). It'll be a slaughterhouse.

Imagine thinking people leaving warzones or actual poverty being phazed by a 2% death toll.
That's cute sir.

Whats also cute is the panic that will spread among them and thus make their attempts to cross borders even more fierce. Or the virus mutating thanks to the millions hapless recipients.

Gotta side with Boem on this one. 80% of refugees are below age 35, compared to about 50% of Americans. That's a very young group, and mostly healthy too — perhaps carriers for COVID19, but unlikely to die from it.