[3.21] Aegis Incinerate Elementalist - Tank with over 10mil Shaper DPS!

Hello my friends! I would like to get some feed back on this theory craft
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I was watching a stream of a similar style build (life/es hybrid, high armor, high block via glancing blows etc).

The streamer made a change that he consider to be OP after testing it and I was wondering if it could work for us.

He decided to replace Defiance Banner with the new Temporal Rift.

For those who have not seen this new skill, Temporal Rift, it uses 10% mana reserve, and once it is activated, it acts as arguably the best panic button the game has ever seen. It can recover FULL life, mana and ES.

It also has a small side effect of making you immune to Temp Chains.

I have never used this skill but the power seems to be in the flexibility it gives a player in their flask choices. Even nerfed, flasks are still very powerful and this should open up some extra choices since, theoretically, a life flask would not be needed.

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It seems easy enough to test since it is a straight swap for Defiance Banner (with a simple recolor of socket). I need to take a good look at flasks because I think I can actually free up 2 slots in my setup since I use a Life flask and Sorrow of the Divine. I may be able to slot in 2 separate utility flasks for those two.

Long term if this actually works out how the streamer made it look, I think I might have just enough room to squeeze Temp Rift into a Unset ring and still keep Defiance but that is way too much work to test for now. I will just give up the armor from Banner for a little while and see how Temp Rift actually functions in game.
Last edited by AndyLovesHisBge on Nov 15, 2021, 12:03:59 PM
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Chubbypuppy wrote:
I just tried the front page https://pastebin.com/G1WujBUX and it worked.
Try again? You are using the community POB right?


Yes Im using the Fork, but thats not what I mean. The web address for the pastebin gives me #404, it wouldn't work in PoB either.

I tried just now and it worked so..that was weird.
Last edited by DamageIncorporated on Nov 15, 2021, 12:10:05 PM
@Andy I haven't tried that new skill yet, but does it work if you died?

I assume not, that would be way too OP.

Does it continuous record what you had 4 seconds ago? If so then a rewind to that doesn't necessarily mean full life/ES/etc, but presumably better than what you are when you pressed the OhShit button
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Chubbypuppy wrote:
@Andy I haven't tried that new skill yet, but does it work if you died?

I assume not, that would be way too OP.

Does it continuous record what you had 4 seconds ago? If so then a rewind to that doesn't necessarily mean full life/ES/etc, but presumably better than what you are when you pressed the OhShit button


I am still trying to figure it out. It is strange so far.

I can't figure out how it decides where the image "recall" point is set. It uses the term "oldest image" in the text but I am unsure what that means.

It is an "active" skill, so a button needs to be pressed to make it "recall" you so it won't work on death (as you said way too OP).
@Chubby, I think you are correct about the 4 seconds. I did some counting and that seems to be the reset point.

I need to find some more hard material to run. I have not even needed to touch it in the last 2 T16 maps.
So I guess they nerfed ( removed) crit chance during flask effect flask unveil? Not even a single Cinderswallow up with the mod. Which brings me to a question; How do you benefit from it when you use Ele Focus? You can't ignite.

Also, I'm leveling the build right now and EO is never ever up. GGG sure likes nerfing. Blue Nightmare will help keep EO up while clearing but not single target. Reckoning as well...but single target? does it eventually get good uptime?
Last edited by DamageIncorporated on Nov 15, 2021, 1:16:26 PM
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So I guess they nerfed ( removed) crit chance during flask effect flask unveil? Not even a single Cinderswallow up with the mod. Which brings me to a question; How do you benefit from it when you use Ele Focus? You can't ignite.

Also, I'm leveling the build right now and EO is never ever up. GGG sure likes nerfing. Blue Nightmare will help keep EO up while clearing but not single target. Reckoning as well...but single target? does it eventually get good uptime?


The crit chance mod was removed from Cinderswallow this league. IMO that flask absolutely sucks after all the nerfs the past 2 leagues, I don't even bother with it any more.

We don't ignite with Incinerate, we ignite with Wave of Conviction/Combust

Many of us made a change this league and removed Controlled Destruction from the build and used Concentrated Effect instead. That gives near 100% up time on EO.
Last edited by AndyLovesHisBge on Nov 15, 2021, 1:29:48 PM
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So I guess they nerfed ( removed) crit chance during flask effect flask unveil? Not even a single Cinderswallow up with the mod. Which brings me to a question; How do you benefit from it when you use Ele Focus? You can't ignite.

Also, I'm leveling the build right now and EO is never ever up. GGG sure likes nerfing. Blue Nightmare will help keep EO up while clearing but not single target. Reckoning as well...but single target? does it eventually get good uptime?


The crit chance mod was removed from Cinderswallow this league. IMO that flask absolutely sucks after all the nerfs the past 2 leagues, I don't even bother with it any more.

We don't ignite with Incinerate, we ignite with Wave of Conviction/Combust

Many of us made a change this league and removed Controlled Destruction from the build and used Concentrated Effect instead. That gives near 100% up time on EO.

Hi, ya I noticed the use of Conc Effect instead to help and Im using it instead of Controlled Destruction....absolutely zero uptime on EO. Also the clear speed is....ugh. tiny T rex arms reach on Incinerate.
Last edited by DamageIncorporated on Nov 15, 2021, 1:39:11 PM
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Hi, ya I noticed the use of Conc Effect instead to help and Im using it instead of Controlled Destruction....absolutely zero uptime on EO. Also the clear speed is....ugh. tiny T rex arms reach on Incinerate.


*I don't understand why you have zero uptime of EO with Conc Effect. You should have a very high chance of EO.

* We don't use Incin alone for clearing. You can have MASSIVE aoe clearing when you get the full Infernal Call set up running.

I am using Deep Breaths paired with Inc AOE on Infernal Call and anomalous second wind. This allows you to get off 4 massive AOE explosions in Nightmare and then have solid uptime of IC when mapping. Just group packs together, cast IC and then a quick hit of Incin and you can blow up a screen+ depending on density.
It's a leveling thing then. I'm not there yet. Thanks

I can't afford a +1 amulet so sucks to waste $$ anointing a trash amulet : /, Luckily it's a cheap annoint.

Deep Breaths+ Soul Of Steel is instead of Soul Of Steel+ Whispers Of Doom too. Pretty high opportunity cost.
Last edited by DamageIncorporated on Nov 15, 2021, 2:06:16 PM

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