What to Expect from the Livestream

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MrWonderful99 wrote:

Cheers from the USA, GGG has really dialed in the announcements and I am jacked (even with the Harvest changes which I still think Discord is the issue and not Harvest).

Anyway, 3.13 was my absolute favorite league of all time mainly for the Atlas changes so I expect Ultimatium to be excellent also.

TFT killed Harvest, there should be no doubts about that.

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N4rk0tyk wrote:

Last night I got a plot with two R/A life, first one in like 3 weeks (and I play every day 3-4 hours or more at nights), I used it on my project helmet (nothing super fancy, +power charge/crit/nearby phys), on first I got minion life (elder inf) and on second I got t10 life (yep, fat 5 flat). Definitely an upgrade over previous 40 flat life. This is the reality of harvest for most players. But it is for some reason too strong.

You are suppose to use Discord and buy as many Remove/Add life within an hour or so as it takes to get your t1 Life. Bring about 20 exalted and a lot of patience and maybe something to calm your nerves as any one of the people might jack your item. Probably won't, I hear good things, but wouldn't it be just your luck if they jack you?

I am joking of course. I didn't use the discord at all so none of my gear has Tier 1 life unless I bought it with t1 life. My ring use to have tier 3 life then tier 5 life now it has no life because I used a Remove Life to manage only holding 10 crafts and in hopes of finding an Augment Life.

I have gotten very few Augment Life or Remove/add Life all league. But right now I have 6 Augment Defense and no Remove Defense for any of the items I could Remove/Add defense onto.

This is not a perfect system at all. For most of us. It is about to get worse, for most of us. The rich, will still get what they want as always. Discord Harvest was proof of that.

I cannot understand or figure out why they didn't add the Harvest Crafts to all the Seeds themselves and have the Seeds drop as "crafting use" items that we can trade like fossils or essences. It makes no sense they call it a failure when they didn't even let us all harvest craft equally.

I don't care where or how they implement Deterministic crafting but it should be equal access for all. In Patch 3.14 it looks like we are set for more of the same. Use discord or be left out is a sad situation.

Also, let's all flood discord and fight over crafts. It is the future of PoE yes?

Gonna be there. Can't wait already.

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SpaniardPuss wrote:

TFT killed Harvest, there should be no doubts about that.

GGG sabotaged Harvest from the start so it would fail. Why else would they set up such a terrible system for it?

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Praimsara wrote:

Also, let's all flood discord and fight over crafts. It is the future of PoE yes?

To be fair whispering in Discord and hoping that craft is still available isn't that different from whispering in game for an item and being ignored half the time. It's even more the same experience if you do use Livesearch for required item.

But I definitely agree that they should just make seeds tradeable.

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SpaniardPuss wrote:

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MrWonderful99 wrote:

Cheers from the USA, GGG has really dialed in the announcements and I am jacked (even with the Harvest changes which I still think Discord is the issue and not Harvest).

Anyway, 3.13 was my absolute favorite league of all time mainly for the Atlas changes so I expect Ultimatium to be excellent also.

TFT killed Harvest, there should be no doubts about that.

Funny you said so, 3 weeks into Ritual a lot of people (myself included) stated that harvest will be nerfed because of the TFT discord. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that if ggg is trying to slow down harvest crafting by the way its implemented (random spawn, random seeds, random outcome, weighted values everywhere, no physical seeds to trade) bluntly taking it away and flushing it down the drain will not do any good.

Yes, TFT it’s at fault BUT it’s the implementation of harvest that’s a problem. Community simply used the tool provided by 3rd party, that’s all. If harvest crafted items were tagged to hortistation on first “bigger” craft (aka they could be crafted on only one station, ever, after any of the annuals/exalts etc) we would NEVER got to this stage. There is plenty of other solutions to kill craft trading, but again, I’m being repetitive here, ggg decided to ignore the root of the problem and simply take an easy way out.

Excited to see the new PoE 2 footage and of course next weeks league start. HYPE

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SpaniardPuss wrote:

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MrWonderful99 wrote:

Cheers from the USA, GGG has really dialed in the announcements and I am jacked (even with the Harvest changes which I still think Discord is the issue and not Harvest).

Anyway, 3.13 was my absolute favorite league of all time mainly for the Atlas changes so I expect Ultimatium to be excellent also.

TFT killed Harvest, there should be no doubts about that.

Was it TFT or should we follow the breadcrumb trail which leads us to players congregating on TFT in order to trade which is a legitimate thing to do in PoE. So the root of all Harvest problems is the capability trade for crafts. The players are just playing, and I see no issue with TFT or any other medium that allows people to get together. If players playing by the rules is the problem, then change the rules instead of changing the features that players are trading for.

GGG changed the features, not the rules.

The stream is gonna start at 4am here, same time as the league start. I can never get the free stuff. Wished it could be based on Europe time like Diablo 3 which starts at 11pm here...

nice!

but pls nerf 6man maven/beast abuse and buff chance for harvest!