December Events 2021

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vio wrote:
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Archwizard wrote:

Actually, a random lottery is the definition of fair from the standpoint that 1 entry = 1 chance, and it doesn't matter who has the entry. Every single entry has an equal shot at winning, regardless of prior or ensuing outcomes.

yes, "fair" is highly subjective and you can see it as multiple, parallel lotteries.

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thing is, in difference to real money lotteries where it's unlikely that you win a price and it's nearly impossible to win all those parallel drawings your ticket is eligible to, poe players probably have the expectation to win at least one price.

it's seen as a "reward for participation" rather than a very lucky lottery win. and one person getting 3 participation rewards? why?

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but eventually i'm with you because being eligible for multiple prices required more playtime.


Because people's expectations are wrong. GGG very clearly states everything except the mystery box is a random draw based on leveling characters and that 1 character = 1 entry.

Anyone who expects to win anything based on that is delusional.
Support a free Hong Kong.

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with
sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.
-Galileo Galilei
f2p games are the most expensive and scam like model of gaming we have today... And no. A game don't need be good to earn money (see thousands of mobile f2p games and what people "donate" to them). Some people likes to spent in a game to feel superior to others and that itself is enought for them to spend thousands of dollars in a game. Even simply badges on a forum is good enought for some to feel special and brag about it.

That being said, poe still not the worst offender in the industry BUT is not a SAINT and this game is NOT free. Free is only a demo for u to see how it plays out then u need to BUY some stash to properly play the game.

A truly free game don't have any diference between one player that donates thousands of dollars and another that didnt spent a cent. Supporter or donations u do without receiving anything. What we do here is not "supporting" but BUYING supplies, being extra stash or extra fancy stuff.
Last edited by IHellBoundI#4693 on Dec 15, 2021, 3:32:17 PM
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IHellBoundI wrote:
f2p games are the most expensive and scam like model of gaming we have today... And no. A game don't need be good to earn money (see thousands of mobile f2p games and what people "donate" to them). Some people likes to spent in a game to feel superior to others and that itself is enought for them to spend thousands of dollars in a game. Even simply badges on a forum is good enought for some to feel special and brag about it.

That being said, poe still not the worst offender in the industry BUT is not a SAINT and this game is NOT free. Free is only a demo for u to see how it plays out then u need to BUY some stash to properly play the game.

A truly free game don't have any diference between one player that donates thousands of dollars and another that didnt spent a cent. Supporter or donations u do without receiving anything. What we do here is not "supporting" but BUYING supplies, being extra stash or extra fancy stuff.


This is true, and has always been a point of contention. Back in CB all you could buy was more stash tabs, the non-supporter pack MTX actually came after.

I wish GGG would offer the truly free player a more functional stash. I have been saying that for years.

And buying stuff is supporting. If you buy stuff from Wal-Mart you are supporting their business.
Support a free Hong Kong.

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with
sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.
-Galileo Galilei
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Archwizard wrote:
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IHellBoundI wrote:
f2p games are the most expensive and scam like model of gaming we have today... And no. A game don't need be good to earn money (see thousands of mobile f2p games and what people "donate" to them). Some people likes to spent in a game to feel superior to others and that itself is enought for them to spend thousands of dollars in a game. Even simply badges on a forum is good enought for some to feel special and brag about it.

That being said, poe still not the worst offender in the industry BUT is not a SAINT and this game is NOT free. Free is only a demo for u to see how it plays out then u need to BUY some stash to properly play the game.

A truly free game don't have any diference between one player that donates thousands of dollars and another that didnt spent a cent. Supporter or donations u do without receiving anything. What we do here is not "supporting" but BUYING supplies, being extra stash or extra fancy stuff.


This is true, and has always been a point of contention. Back in CB all you could buy was more stash tabs, the non-supporter pack MTX actually came after.

I wish GGG would offer the truly free player a more functional stash. I have been saying that for years.

And buying stuff is supporting. If you buy stuff from Wal-Mart you are supporting their business.


True.

About the free players 5 stash tabs wasn't so bad back in the day. But rn its horrible with so many things they have added. A currency and maybe a map tab would be nice at least. For sure if the game is good and people enjoy they will buy more stuff so these 2 tabs will help the game longterm in my opinion.
because we say we die in the game they remove the messages...those dev dont know how to play/ do they job... it not complicated to ask NORMAL ppl how they play and not a LUCKY streamer HOW THEY want to play the game...i mean if we all watch lucky streamer play we never gonna find a mirror because we never gonna touch the game anymore so please ...
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lotting2782 wrote:
because we say we die in the game they remove the messages...those dev dont know how to play/ do they job... it not complicated to ask NORMAL ppl how they play and not a LUCKY streamer HOW THEY want to play the game...i mean if we all watch lucky streamer play we never gonna find a mirror because we never gonna touch the game anymore so please ...


What? You think streamers get great gear just cause you've seen them get lucky on few things during their 300h of playtime in a league? They grind like we all do. After adding passives to atlas, making crafting bench easier etc. it's hard not to get rich. All you need is knowing what to do, everything can bring cash. Maybe you are salty about deli-beyond-nemesis juiced maps and few ex/map drops not taking in account the investment cost and grind for items capable of running such content? I don't consider myself lucky but I was still able to get around 100ex in 1 month of grind and doing content I enjoy.

TL;DR
git gud.
Edit: Ohh i already received it. my bad XD

I reach over level 50. I still dint receive any Atlantis Mystery Box reward. Am i missing something ? Or just need to wait little longer ?
Last edited by Qespada#7602 on Dec 16, 2021, 3:14:47 AM
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Archwizard wrote:
Anyone who expects to win anything based on that is delusional.

yes, basically all people participating in lotteries are.
age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill!
As a first time participate in such events i am kind of dissappointed that i got nothing although i reached lvl >=80 on the delve event. I liked the event and it was fun but still little bit sad that I didnt get an additional reward.

Congratz to those lucky ones that got the ~10-30k skins.
Can we have a demographic of the events? What percentage of people participating reached a certain range level? For example how many between lvl 50-60, 60-70 and so on? That would be a really interesting insight.

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