3.24.2 Hotfix 5

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ButcheredByBirth wrote:

no fun for you league

youve fixed the exploit, now leave the existing items as they are and let us have nice things, its not as if anyone hacked into the game to make this happen its an error from some update on GGG part so let us keep the 6 socket one handers

I only found out about it today and managed to craft 1 weapon and was rebuilding my character to use it

its far more grief to change things now, the important bit was fixing the beast craft

or at very least let us keep them until end of league, please think about this if you delete or modify existing items you are only rewarding the ones who made profits from them

thats your own fault. A clearly bugged interaction, You knew it, It broke the basic item rules.

I'm also sure they will get people that made items in mass to trade

noice cheap gear

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where are the heads of the people that bug abused in early league? still can't see bans.

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LaserVonRekyu wrote:

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iParadoxG wrote:

Finally!


hope you guys ban the exploiters while you're at it.

You too should be banned.

Would make exactly as much sense.




As a person with autism, I do not comprehend the difference of available ingame options and exploits. They are all options to me. Your social construct of what is an inexcusable exploit is your own subjective perspective that I am incapable of comprehending.

Should I be banned just because of I have this disability?

Why should I have to play in fear that a normal action could ban me.



Until GGG provides clear and universal guidelines for situations like this, all players that learn of such actions are going to be forced to perform them, or fall behind when GGG chooses not to remove the "exploit"

Yes, you should be banned for your made up condition. The TOS clearly says if you find and use an exploit, you will be banned.

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kyobusa wrote:

Definitely people who created these items/used them/or even simply bought them should 100% be permanently banned. This game should NOT be a safe haven for nasty dirty cheaters who try to ruin the game for EVERYONE involved that played fairly.

These items were clearly unintentional, no excuses whatsoever for these dirty players.

So if someone made the item just to test it on some shitty blue item then deleted it after , they should be perma banned?

Why should people that never made them but simply traded them be banned? It's not like they made the money be created out of thin air, someone else farmed that currency and used it. Plenty of people spend divines on items that end up being fixed later on or on skill gems that end up being nerfed.

And I doubt people that used them without creating them generated way more currency. Theres plenty of builds in the game that do all content. Headhunters are under 7 divines and K-touch is 2 div.

why is there so many people crying about this and calling out for bans? it was obvious that was going to get fixed, its not the first time that happens.
if you spent big money on these items seriously and did not do it just for the memes you're dumb af, dont know what else to tell you lol

Hopefully you guys don't forgot to fix the way to restore those "bugged" sockets back (like imprints, and maybe giftwrap).

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kinzozs wrote:

why is there so many people crying about this and calling out for bans? it was obvious that was going to get fixed, its not the first time that happens.
if you spent big money on these items seriously and did not do it just for the memes you're dumb af, dont know what else to tell you lol

Because they have banned for exploiting in the past, they should be consistent when they hand out bans.

And anyone that has been using it since day 1/2 should be banned definitely.

They let Herald stackers carry on til end of league and all those cluster jewels were changed at league end, no problem

need to do the same thing here

did letting herald stackers have the league to enjoy OP cluster jewels break the game? no.
was it fun? yes.

fun because anyone could make it, same as this 6l unintended items

cluster jewel herald was also unintended

dont screw up GGG

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iParadoxG wrote:

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LaserVonRekyu wrote:

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iParadoxG wrote:

Finally!


hope you guys ban the exploiters while you're at it.

You too should be banned.

Would make exactly as much sense.




As a person with autism, I do not comprehend the difference of available ingame options and exploits. They are all options to me. Your social construct of what is an inexcusable exploit is your own subjective perspective that I am incapable of comprehending.

Should I be banned just because of I have this disability?

Why should I have to play in fear that a normal action could ban me.



Until GGG provides clear and universal guidelines for situations like this, all players that learn of such actions are going to be forced to perform them, or fall behind when GGG chooses not to remove the "exploit"

bro, what?

this was clearly an unintentional interaction to begin with. For example items with mods like "Have No Sockets" or "Have 1 socket" to be able to have 4L or 6L?

and there are people who abused it, (eg. some listed many 6L Squires), and I believe GGG has to make it clear that these abuses have consequences, as this is clearly players abusing a broken mechanic for their benefit.

What is the difference?

To make a 6link squire shield I need to get it unidentified then use the craft that sets the item to maximum possible sockets while it does not have the mod it limiting it to 3 sockets.

To craft a specific mod on an item I need to block other possible mods until the mod I want is the only option.

These both sound like a normal exploit to me. How am I magically supposed to know the difference of which one is bannable and which is normal expected behavior?



I have to ask this question ALL THE TIME while I play. The entire game is a sequence of abusing mechanic combinations to get a stronger result. What makes one more acceptable while another is bannable??? Thats right its not defined so we dont know.



Just because something is clearly an exploit to you does not mean I know this.

What happens when guessed wrong and it turns out the thing was fine? Lost opportunity.
What happens when guessed wrong and it turns out the thing was not fine but the items created are left? You didnt get it, and can never make it again while competing with those that did.
What happens when I guess wrong and it turns out the thing was not fine and the items get reverted? Lost investments and GGG's time.

If I dont attempt I always loose. If I attempt I might win or lose. Its always these questions, regardless of what the interaction is. Players are therefore encouraged and taught to exploit by the game's design. Why should players be banned for playing exactly as they were instructed?


What is the point of having GGG make it clear "these abuses have consequences, as this is clearly players abusing a broken mechanic for their benefit." when the definition of what is abusing broken mechanics is unclear, and historically mix messaged.
All that does is make me scared to play because I dont know what is safe or unsafe.