uncommon and rare cards are not dropping for me

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visualize wrote:
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Su0T wrote:
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visualize wrote:
tried to farm patient and it would not drop no matter what I tried, 4x legion or ambush, I figured screw this ill go one higher and farm nurse..... 300% quant I think I did 10 maps and not a single drop, I got less cards than when I did ambush, Ive gotten 4 raw divines and still no target cards.... yes I checked my item filter.


I've been farming for a Mageblood card for well over 200 8mod maps, and the div scarabs, still not a single drop.

Sucks to be us, I guess.


Thats what I'm saying.... its just not dropping... even the patient isnt dropping for me, on 300% quant. I even had an instance I got 4k quant wisps on top of all that.

Also, yes, just my account is flagged.

Just to make sure, what map are you farming? Wouldn't be the first time someone farmed a map where the card doesnt even drop anymore after the changes this league.
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Just to make sure, what map are you farming? Wouldn't be the first time someone farmed a map where the card doesnt even drop anymore after the changes this league.


I scryed carcass to dunes
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visualize wrote:
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Just to make sure, what map are you farming? Wouldn't be the first time someone farmed a map where the card doesnt even drop anymore after the changes this league.


I scryed carcass to dunes

But like... carcass drops Nurse not Patient, why are you expecting patient drops? And not getting a nurse in what? 20 high quant maps is maybe slightly on the unlucky side its not insane.
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visualize wrote:
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Just to make sure, what map are you farming? Wouldn't be the first time someone farmed a map where the card doesnt even drop anymore after the changes this league.


I scryed carcass to dunes

But like... carcass drops Nurse not Patient, why are you expecting patient drops? And not getting a nurse in what? 20 high quant maps is maybe slightly on the unlucky side its not insane.


Yeah I was farming promenade for patient for 2 days-ish then I said screw it, since it wasnt dropping and just went up to nurse, I've run 30+ 250-300% quant maps now, 5 divine drops but no card

I bought pilfering ring just to confirm I wasnt going crazy, this was right after I stopped doing promenade.

I mean, I can continue running the map until one drops but...idk kinda burned out now, I already have HH but I just wanted to target farm div cards
Last edited by visualize on Aug 30, 2024, 7:23:20 AM
Quant is not everything, when you hear people talking about farming high quant maps what they often mean is:

-Beyond/Delirium to juice raw mob count
-Investments into altars coupled with a build that can click every debuff and boss rushing/running maps like Jungle Valley where boss altars dont spawn
-Complimentary scarabs to juice the pack count even higher

What is your actual setup? From your challenges it seems that you are missing both the sixth map device slot as well as at least some skillpoints for the tree. A lot of the juice that can be added stacks multiplicatively, and clearspeed is another multiplier on top of that so its very easy to reach 5-10 times your efficiency with th

For comparison here is what I ran:

8 modded Jungle Valley (with mesa scried on top of it) map with at least 110 quant, with all modifiers thats usually in the 60ish packsize+350 quant range
2 Ambush Scarabs
1 Hunted Traitors Scarab
1 Ambush Scarab of Hidden Compartments
1 Delirium Scarab
Kirac Ambush+Blue altars (could run all but one mod)

On the tree I had full ambush,beyond and map mod investment coupled with the "unending delirium" node.

I ran these in about 3 minutes including looting, with trading that about 17 maps/hr. I ran around 250 of these, in these 250 I got 1 of the Voltaxic Rift cards, which should be about 8 times rarer than the nurse.

Rare divination cards (which both the nurse and the patient are) are incredibly rare, even if you put a lot of juice into your maps. Its highly unlikely that your account is flagged in any way.
Last edited by stnikolauswagne on Aug 30, 2024, 7:32:14 AM
I just randomely open them from strongboxes. I guess that's why the price is rock bottom. They fly out of Strongboxes like there is no tomorrow. Dunno what you guys call target farm but i get them without even trying^^
I just deleted 2 doctors in harvest bench cause price is so low...i usually don't gamble there cause it's a fools errand with the juice cost, but 2.5 div for a doctor card or whatever, that was so low that i had to try for once and quadruple the 2 doctor cards that dropped and get a belt form that darrn mechanic^^
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8 modded Jungle Valley (with mesa scried on top of it) map with at least 110 quant, with all modifiers thats usually in the 60ish packsize+350 quant range
2 Ambush Scarabs
1 Hunted Traitors Scarab
1 Ambush Scarab of Hidden Compartments
1 Delirium Scarab
Kirac Ambush+Blue altars (could run all but one mod)


my 2 cents to this strategy:

The problem here is obv. You are not using Ambush Scarab of Discernment. You are practically wasting money by trying to save money.

Hidden Compartments, hmm ok but 3rd Ambush Scrabs would be better. You can use 3 so why not use them. 15% open is only really worth it if you are using containment with 30+ boxes in a map, imo. My guess is it's better to use Ambush scarab of Potency.

Hunted Traitors? wtf is this? Vendor it for random other scarabs^^ Also Slam Fine Delirium Orb on uncorrupted maps instead of Delirium scarab, imo.

That way you can use 3 ambush, 1 ambush of potency, 1 ambush of discernment.

You will now see much more arcanist and diviners strongboxes. If you don't use Ambush scarab of Discernment, don't use Ambush scarabs at all, imo.
Last edited by Strickl3r on Aug 30, 2024, 6:31:38 PM
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Strickl3r wrote:
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8 modded Jungle Valley (with mesa scried on top of it) map with at least 110 quant, with all modifiers thats usually in the 60ish packsize+350 quant range
2 Ambush Scarabs
1 Hunted Traitors Scarab
1 Ambush Scarab of Hidden Compartments
1 Delirium Scarab
Kirac Ambush+Blue altars (could run all but one mod)


my 2 cents to this strategy:

The problem here is obv. You are not using Ambush Scarab of Discernment. You are practically wasting money by trying to save money.

Hidden Compartments, hmm ok but 3rd Ambush Scrabs would be better. You can use 3 so why not use them. 15% open is only really worth it if you are using containment with 30+ boxes in a map, imo. My guess is it's better to use Ambush scarab of Potency.

Hunted Traitors? wtf is this? Vendor it for random other scarabs^^ Also Slam Fine Delirium Orb on uncorrupted maps instead of Delirium scarab, imo.

That way you can use 3 ambush, 1 ambush of potency, 1 ambush of discernment.

You will now see much more arcanist and diviners strongboxes. If you don't use Ambush scarab of Discernment, don't use Ambush scarabs at all, imo.


This was week 1 of the league when discernment went for 40c+ on the AH and regular ambushes went for 12 and was 20 div/hr at the time. Obv metas massively change. I liked hunted traitors bc

A) Lots of mobs makes lots of explosions, makes lots of happy brain chemicals
B) At the time Tainted Fusings were slow selling for 50-60 c and I‘ve always liked Hunted Traitors for beyond spawning.

I used Discernments for my T17 farms, but simply did not enjoy it (this was pre-nerf so rolling the maps took forever).

Didn‘t mean this as a „look at this strat you should do this if you want cards“ but rather „this is what I did for 250 maps and this is what I got out of it, if you invest less than this you will probably get less out of it than I did“.
Last edited by stnikolauswagne on Aug 30, 2024, 7:34:12 PM
I can adjust your in-same drop settings for a 25 Exalt...err Divine...for a donation to my favorite children's charity.

Hit me up....don't.

-Time to be funny. The world needs funny right now! Warning: "Might" get you muted.

25 Exalts...oh God my stupidity stuck! Now onto 25 Divines...
They worry too much about how many items are in the economy.

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