Where's Chris???

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666lol666#3140 wrote:

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Naviachi#3440 wrote:

Why are people mad at GGG for splitting PoE1 and 2?

How is that even a question? You have a fully developed game that you love and the developer tells you that you'll get poe2 as the biggest addition to that game. NOW instead you will get a new game with 1/10 of the features that the old game had plus you are splitting the community.

even tho i agree with ggg's decision now. i was one of the person who were super pissed with ggg for this split.

what i can say is, after all that. its pointless to try and make people who dont understand see why people would get upset.

they wont get it or dont want to get it.

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AintCare#6513 wrote:

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exsea#1724 wrote:

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vegeta1991#0887 wrote:

Glad you arent representing anyone but yourself.

lol rewind time back to the exalt divine change and have a look at the forum and realize how truly wrong you are.

but in a sense you're right. i cant represent everyone. you can check the posts yourself or just take my word on it

so most of the forum justified the harassment Chris and Bex received? do you even realize what you are typing here?

lol dude
harrassment and criticism are two different things.

i dont support any harrassment or death threats towards them or anyone actually. but does that mean theyre free from criticism?

i can see youre passionate on defending them. look i would defend them too. its unfair to get harrassed and death threats. but criticism? criticism is fair game IF warranted.

chris practically gave a middle finger to players who cared for their exalts whether intentional or not. he pissed them off. that is a mistake and he has done nothing to placate anyone. is that behaviour valid for criticism? yeah.

it definitely was an asshole thing to do towards people who loved playing his game for so long. i will criticize him for that.

fortunately for him, POE is played by a vast plethora of different players with different tastes. standard players are no longer the majority. even then players have no choice but just accept that they lost all that value.

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AintCare#6513 wrote:

not sure if you are back peddling now, have difficulty distinguishing between those two terms or just answered my question with a very elaborate no. but its pretty clear you are the one here that is trying to 'passionately' justify the harassment that apparently you did not partake in.

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backpedal my ass.

ive had ggg staff modify or delete my posts if i ever go out of line. i m very fucking aware of how i word my words. i am harsh to ggg, i am harsh to chris but i would never harrass them. and despite my harshness it comes out of love of their game.

i m pretty sure on my stance despite whatever you want to assume.

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AintCare#6513 wrote:

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exsea#1724 wrote:

i m very fucking aware of how i word my words.

wordy words

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exsea#1724 wrote:

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kyobusa#3514 wrote:

The community attacked and bombarded him and Bex with death/sa threats and chased them away.

i'm not one of those people.

but ...

there is no fkn but bro, you're, for some weird reason, trying to justify actions that can't be justified by any reasonable person, no matter the circumstances

yeah i cant justify myself when one clearly doesnt even know the difference between harassment and harsh criticism.

but you're cool.

i dont dare criticize you, else you'll tell people i harassed you. ohnooooos

i think you 2 youve probably argued enough now. its ok guys. yes everyone whos been hard on chris has been too hard on chris, ive been hard on the devs before, sometimes rightly and fair for a player and sometimes too hard on them for which ive even apologised before. its ok to be upset at a change that massively impacts you and to post about it, and yes that can go to far.

youre both ok and what ur both saying is ok but youre just gonna keeping polarising each other if you keep arguing. its fine, chris loves you both and so do we all.

:)

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gandhar0#5532 wrote:

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brunowa#6253 wrote:

Chris is great but this has always been Jonathan's game. It makes sense for Jonathan to be the face.

From what i understand Mark has now taken over the ruder and is the face & mind of PoE 1 now while Jonathan is the face & mind behind PoE 2.


Chris most likely is now doing non gamedev related things like PR and the like and has no impact whatsoever how both games will develop longterm.

Maybe he founds another gamestudio and releases small indy games with his "vision", would be intersting indeed.

afaik chris has been doing non gamedev stuff like PR for about half the games life.


real hardcore poe dorks will remember chris going on podcasts like the one ziggy, zeno and phox used to do way back in the day, even then chris would be a bit removed from the actual loop of what the nitty gritty gameplay development changes were. he would have to go ask the team for answers to certain things and have stuff they had told him that he was informing the community of etc. how long ago was that? i think it was about 8 years ago.


the whole chris vision thing doesnt exist. at the point people started saying that chris had already not been that guy for 6+ years. its the vision of chris yes, and johnathan and mark and rory and rishi and all the team back there having conversations. but its not chris running the gamedev show.







chris comes out and talks to us on podcasts and stuff so that his devs can get on with their job and when people start saying stuff like 'omg the chris vision omg' its his name they use, theyre pointing the hate at chris. he absorbs that for the team so that the other devs dont get personal trash thrown at them by the community.

rory and qarl and mark and all sorts of people have been on podcasts before, but its probably not something they enjoy that much and the negative flak they get might really effect them. chris has a high toughness value, he runs the company, makes the big non game decisions and tanks a lot of hate and stress for the rest of them so that they can get on with actually making the gameplay designs and decisions.

i stopped reading what you were both saying early on, i dont even know what you are talking about and i struggle to believe if i read it back exsea is justifying death threats.


when people argue like this they end up painting each other into extremes that i dont think really represent what either of them actually believe.

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Snorkle_uk#0761 wrote:

i think you 2 youve probably argued enough now. its ok guys. yes everyone whos been hard on chris has been too hard on chris, ive been hard on the devs before, sometimes rightly and fair for a player and sometimes too hard on them for which ive even apologised before. its ok to be upset at a change that massively impacts you and to post about it, and yes that can go to far.

youre both ok and what ur both saying is ok but youre just gonna keeping polarising each other if you keep arguing. its fine, chris loves you both and so do we all.

:)

One of the most wholesome comments I've ever seen on a gaming forums where someone kindly calls to stop the arguing instead of eating some popcorn and watching drama unfold :)

lol if all you got from what i said me justifying death threats then i apologize for my failure of communicating my ideas.

to put my views succinctly

chris did an oopsie
people got upset
some went a step further and harrassed and issued death threats

internet is full of different people some sane and some not. definitely there are gonna be some people who would do stupid shit like harrass and send death threats.

is it bad? yes. do i support such actions? no

i think the way i would say it is i m explaining rather than justifying.

is it logical that deranged people would react in a deranged way? yes

is it justified? no

The good ending. :)
Chris reading this from the office probably sipping coffee or sumn:
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