POE 2 ✧ Lahkesis Queen of Chaos ✧ "Essence Drain " Guide releas (Showcase video include)

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jack3dm#0444 wrote:

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Partycommander#4955 wrote:

what the hell are you?

Business owner and co-owner of:
- upholstery workshop for premium cars
- mechanical workshop for Audi
- embroidery and DTG + DTF workshop with offline shops

This is why I see things from a different point of view than you, I am a business owner, I am a businessman.
Chill bro

Lol, what a weird flex on a game forum. Also probably from the most things that didn't happen, this is probably the most thing that didn't happen.

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Rachdingue#2192 wrote:

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adavydow#2566 wrote:

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Rachdingue#2192 wrote:

Poison is chaos damage right? And contagion spreads poison too, wouldn't be good to place poison on hit support to ED to extra DOT spread?

I've wrote it multiple times in this thread and will repeat once again, ED does not need help with clear. It is great even in +60% hp lvl 82 maps. I'm using Swift-Affliction - Chain - Chaos Mastery - Minion Pact - Drain Ailment setup and it is good even though the last two supports do nothing on packs. If you are doing content which is too high for your gear, just swap Drain Ailment by Persistence: for clear duration increase is similar to damage increase as we care about damage per cast, not damage per second.

Any techniques for extra pack damage are overkill and absolutely not needed.

ED struggles a lot with bosses and this is the thing to solve (either with a different bossing skill or some insane technique to boost ED single target).

Is chain useful? You lose dps for having more ED projectiles but you don't actually more projectiles right?

As for single target dps don't know if stacking mana and having a curse with impending doom + spell echo + cursed ground would help, like a small version of hexblast

if you have problems with clear than just put on Corpsewade Boots Lvl18. You will clear feaster than you like. Single target stays crapy though.

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Vendetta#0327 wrote:

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jack3dm#0444 wrote:

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Partycommander#4955 wrote:

what the hell are you?

Business owner and co-owner of:
- upholstery workshop for premium cars
- mechanical workshop for Audi
- embroidery and DTG + DTF workshop with offline shops

This is why I see things from a different point of view than you, I am a business owner, I am a businessman.
Chill bro

Lol, what a weird flex on a game forum. Also probably from the most things that didn't happen, this is probably the most thing that didn't happen.

Whatever :)

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Void_xy#2904 wrote:

Is chain useful? You lose dps for having more ED projectiles but you don't actually more projectiles right?

As for single target dps don't know if stacking mana and having a curse with impending doom + spell echo + cursed ground would help, like a small version of hexblast

Chain only reduce hit (not dot) damage, but it’s a big QOL improvement. Effect on overall damage is small, even in single-target scenario. In my current gear, my dot DPS is ~10k and hit dps is ~3k. Without chain I would win ~ 3k damage per cast (before multipliers). With 5 second duration it’s around 5% of overall damage. If I would spam ED faster, the effect will be a little bit more, but doing so, while still keeping both minion pact and drain ailment active is almost impossible. May be a little bit better in CI build, as minion pact is free in this case. Opportunity cost is also very low, as there is no more reasonable supports for ED.

With normal amount mana, impending doom DPS in single target scenario is pretty small and curse ground is huge QOL loss: you need to either recast an expensive spell or keep the boss pinned to a certain position. May be different in full mom build, but in life/es version there are better spells to spam.

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jack3dm#0444 wrote:

I’d like to share a few thoughts from a business owner’s perspective:

1. This is just a game – which means that no one is obligated to contribute to this thread. Even the OP (Original Poster) might update their post after six months, or possibly never. Nobody will be asking for refunds or leaving negative reviews because of it—this is just a game.

2. OP is not a professional gamer – as far as I understand, he doesn’t earn money from playing this game. All of the guides and posts are made because he is a good person who enjoys helping others. If you feel the need to complain, consider moving to another thread.

3. This is PoE2 Early Access, not PoE1 – which means that some skills, such as Chaos in this case, might not be fully optimized yet. This thread and guide are here to help us, players (and developers), to understand what the OP is trying to create. If the build ends up being problematic (which isn’t likely), we won’t expect developers to offer immediate support. However, if the build is underperforming (which also isn’t the case), we can expect fixes or improvements for Chaos builds.

4. Good things take time – just like you can’t build the Sagrada Familia in three weeks, things need time to come together properly. If you’re not willing to wait, feel free to move on to another thread or try developing your own Chaos witch/sorc build and share it here, so you can contribute to the "Chaos family".

Thank you.

I have no problems with a time it takes to create a guide, I understand that it's a hard unpayed work and I'm ready to wait. But patronizing posts from OP where he shares no details on what he is working at, accompanied by videos with bad-to-mid performance (which "definitely" has nothing to do with real build performance as he always change his build immediately after he drops them) make me cringe TBF.

I understand the game pretty well (I've played since POE1 beta, switched an account though at some time to play on steam). I've levelled ED chrono to 93 on SSF and built it so it's comfortable to clear maps and farm breaches on the highest level.

I've dropped my build with theorycrafting around it in this thread and while OP is mostly keeping radio-silence, I'm trying to answer all the questions which players ask in the thread, performing tests even if they require significant respec, when needed.

I think I have some rights to speak for "Chaos family".

If OP and his support group want us to take them seriously, it would be great if they share at least some ideas on what OP is working instead of gaslighting us with "It's really good and you will like it, we won't say why, look at the video with bad version of the build in the meantime".

Currently, from my experience, ED is a fine build for chill map farming but boss (pinnacle boss) performance is extremely bad. Even juiced map bosses while bearable take a bit too long to kill to make it fun. This makes it an OK side character, but not a good main character to play. As there is no blight-like spell and due to severe shortage of chaos dot supports (we don’t have even 5 of them, so we have to put qol support even in ed itself), there is no possibility to use a different skill for bossing on the same build either.

As far as I understand most of the players who played the build from the start (including myself) by this moment either switched to another build (ex. hit chaos) or are playing on other characters, waiting for buffs/manifesto from GGG.

The fact that there is no useful 5th support for ed single target, makes me thing that this playstyle is just not finished yet (in this case it is a mistake from GGG to release active dot gems, as it leads to a lot of frustration from players). The fact that playstyle is almost there and that they even buffed it, which make players thing that it is supported, makes disappointment once you start bumping your head at the pinnacles even bigger.

Comparing to monk or summoner where you are starving for active/support skill slots, dot playstyle looks especially weird as you have half of active skills empty and for another half half of supports are extremely niche with a marginal gain. Moreover, some of supports we use are not even "supports" they just make skill usable and IMHO should be included in the active gem (like unleash for contagion or withering touch for dark effigy).

I'm still waiting for the guide, and I'm still hoping that there are some things I missed, which can make this build endgame-viable, but my hopes are pretty low atm.

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Vendetta#0327 wrote:

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jack3dm#0444 wrote:

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Partycommander#4955 wrote:

what the hell are you?

Business owner and co-owner of:
- upholstery workshop for premium cars
- mechanical workshop for Audi
- embroidery and DTG + DTF workshop with offline shops

This is why I see things from a different point of view than you, I am a business owner, I am a businessman.
Chill bro

Lol, what a weird flex on a game forum. Also probably from the most things that didn't happen, this is probably the most thing that didn't happen.

are u serious?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXMLUHis66M

im literally waiting for this build to come

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척추분쇄자#7849 wrote:

im literally waiting for this build to come

this will never happen

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Partycommander#4955 wrote:

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척추분쇄자#7849 wrote:

im literally waiting for this build to come

this will never happen

2026 when ED get buff

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Ragx9079#8919 wrote:

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Partycommander#4955 wrote:

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척추분쇄자#7849 wrote:

im literally waiting for this build to come

this will never happen

2026 when ED get buff

there is already electro damage