POE2 Win11 24H2 Crashes - Constant crashing, >100% CPU usage, and more

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Cainrith#2807 wrote:

That post mistakenly states that this is mostly a Windows 24H2 issue. It is not a Windows issue. The issue arises from improper handling of System APIs by the PoE2 code. By misdiagnosing the issue, they won't be able to fix it. By not fixing that line in that statement, it implies that they are not working on the issue.

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m33ts4k0z#0771 wrote:

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Cainrith#2807 wrote:

That post mistakenly states that this is mostly a Windows 24H2 issue. It is not a Windows issue. The issue arises from improper handling of System APIs by the PoE2 code. By misdiagnosing the issue, they won't be able to fix it. By not fixing that line in that statement, it implies that they are not working on the issue.

The developers have certainly a vast number of dxdiag reports in their hands. They can certainly determine that this is not only a 24H2 issue (which I agree it isnt). As a developer myself, I can assure you that you dont have to worry about that.

Also, during my own testing today, I can see a very clear pattern between server (over)load and theae crashes. I crashed 5 times within 3 minutes when the website was down this evening. Pretty sure that they have even a lot of telemetry data that our clients are sending to them before they crash and they have already started seing patterns.

This really feels like some kind of race condition since it looks like only highend systems crash.

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FeuchtVonLipwig#0465 wrote:

As soon as I updated to 24H2, I had crashes when doing the Trial of the Sekhema during loading screens.

I have 2 monitors and likely also one time tabbed out to do something on the second monitor. The youtube video on the second monitor also froze entirely. I could not control my PC anymore, the mouse was moving every 3 seconds but nothing was responding when being clicked, also task manager would not open. So it crashed 2 times like this and I had hard reset my PC, by holding down the power button, same as it is stated in GGGs known problems list.

Afterwards I reverted the update and went back to 23H2 and had no more crashes ever since.

So whoever has these specific crashes and says it is not related to the update, has no idea.

I'm on a 7800X3D on Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX with EXPO profile enabled. The gpu is a 4080 with the Nvidia driver 566.36 . My fps limit in game is on 120 fps.

Ubisoft also is in contact with Microsoft about this 24H2 update, they only released a hotfix so far. My guess is that actually Microsoft has to release an update and not the games. I will never go on 24H2, when all kind of games that are unpatched have problems with multithreading.

All other people that generally have crashes might be affected by something else. But my PC is always set up in a very clean way with only the necessary drivers installed.

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Cainrith#2807 wrote:

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FeuchtVonLipwig#0465 wrote:

As soon as I updated to 24H2, I had crashes when doing the Trial of the Sekhema during loading screens.

I have 2 monitors and likely also one time tabbed out to do something on the second monitor. The youtube video on the second monitor also froze entirely. I could not control my PC anymore, the mouse was moving every 3 seconds but nothing was responding when being clicked, also task manager would not open. So it crashed 2 times like this and I had hard reset my PC, by holding down the power button, same as it is stated in GGGs known problems list.

Afterwards I reverted the update and went back to 23H2 and had no more crashes ever since.

So whoever has these specific crashes and says it is not related to the update, has no idea.

I'm on a 7800X3D on Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX with EXPO profile enabled. The gpu is a 4080 with the Nvidia driver 566.36 . My fps limit in game is on 120 fps.

Ubisoft also is in contact with Microsoft about this 24H2 update, they only released a hotfix so far. My guess is that actually Microsoft has to release an update and not the games. I will never go on 24H2, when all kind of games that are unpatched have problems with multithreading.

All other people that generally have crashes might be affected by something else. But my PC is always set up in a very clean way with only the necessary drivers installed.

To anyone who is confused about the Windows 11 24H2 crashes:

That particular error Ubisoft and other games faced was that Windows' "New Feature" was blocking the program's access to system resources, therefore crashing the program but never crashing the PC itself.

The problem PoE2 has is that program is hogging all available system resources due improper usage of system APIs, therefore crashing the program AND the PC itself. (Technically it crashes the OS because OS can no longer get the resources it has to in order to function properly)

People are crashing on Win 10, Win 11, Linux. If PoE2 runs on an OS, there is someone here crashing on that OS.

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69oVerkill69#4406 wrote:

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Cainrith#2807 wrote:

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FeuchtVonLipwig#0465 wrote:

As soon as I updated to 24H2, I had crashes when doing the Trial of the Sekhema during loading screens.

I have 2 monitors and likely also one time tabbed out to do something on the second monitor. The youtube video on the second monitor also froze entirely. I could not control my PC anymore, the mouse was moving every 3 seconds but nothing was responding when being clicked, also task manager would not open. So it crashed 2 times like this and I had hard reset my PC, by holding down the power button, same as it is stated in GGGs known problems list.

Afterwards I reverted the update and went back to 23H2 and had no more crashes ever since.

So whoever has these specific crashes and says it is not related to the update, has no idea.

I'm on a 7800X3D on Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX with EXPO profile enabled. The gpu is a 4080 with the Nvidia driver 566.36 . My fps limit in game is on 120 fps.

Ubisoft also is in contact with Microsoft about this 24H2 update, they only released a hotfix so far. My guess is that actually Microsoft has to release an update and not the games. I will never go on 24H2, when all kind of games that are unpatched have problems with multithreading.

All other people that generally have crashes might be affected by something else. But my PC is always set up in a very clean way with only the necessary drivers installed.

To anyone who is confused about the Windows 11 24H2 crashes:

That particular error Ubisoft and other games faced was that Windows' "New Feature" was blocking the program's access to system resources, therefore crashing the program but never crashing the PC itself.

The problem PoE2 has is that program is hogging all available system resources due improper usage of system APIs, therefore crashing the program AND the PC itself. (Technically it crashes the OS because OS can no longer get the resources it has to in order to function properly)

People are crashing on Win 10, Win 11, Linux. If PoE2 runs on an OS, there is someone here crashing on that OS.

It all sounds understandable, but I was still playing with 23H2 at release and didn't have a single freeze in 50 hours. Then I unsuspectingly updated to 24H2 and stupidly deleted the windows.old folder, so I wouldn't be able to avoid a clean install. Since the update I've had nothing but problems. A friend of mine has the same setup (hardware, 1:1) and 23H2 and it runs like clockwork.

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dimmok#2997 wrote:

So how is everyone doing after the patch? I seem to be doing much better so far. I’m hopeful that they fixed it. Seeing much less cpu usage and more gpu usage. Still get spikes of high cpu when loading zones but compared to before it’s a lot better so far.

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Cainrith#2807 wrote:

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dimmok#2997 wrote:

So how is everyone doing after the patch? I seem to be doing much better so far. I’m hopeful that they fixed it. Seeing much less cpu usage and more gpu usage. Still get spikes of high cpu when loading zones but compared to before it’s a lot better so far.

Not good. Game still crashes. Check the main thread.