I need more mana

That's all my character ever says.

Thief's Torment being the only item in the game with mana on hit is pretty poor design. We have to sacrifice an entire ring slot to solve our mana issues? Yikes.

Playing Lightning Arrow Deadeye without this ring means I have to continuously spam mana potions and either I kill the boss before I run out (about 10 seconds) or I'm completely screwed.

Mana costs and attribute requirements for all skills need a massive tone down.

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Blasphemous84#2190 wrote:

That's all my character ever says.

Thief's Torment being the only item in the game with mana on hit is pretty poor design. We have to sacrifice an entire ring slot to solve our mana issues? Yikes.

Playing Lightning Arrow Deadeye without this ring means I have to continuously spam mana potions and either I kill the boss before I run out (about 10 seconds) or I'm completely screwed.

Mana costs and attribute requirements for all skills need a massive tone down.

Thief Torment is a piss poor unique like many others and you should not base your build around it when every weapons/gloves/rings/amulets in the game can be found or crafted with Mana Leech or Mana on Kill on them , not even talking about passive tree mana related nodes ...... or maybe stop yourself using every one of those +140% to Mana Cost skill gems on your Lightning Arrow with your +6 to Ranged Skill weapon ?

Socket one physical skill with a leech ring?

You aren't supposed to be able to sustain your dps on deadeye without making a sacrifice.

The sacrifice is lower defences and mana issues. Thiefs also displays this downside since it's only good on bosses and you sacrifice even more defensives.

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Ashyev#5110 wrote:

Or maybe stop yourself using every one of those +140% to Mana Cost skill gems on your Lightning Arrow with your +6 to Ranged Skill weapon ?

None of my supports add mana cost, and my bow has zero +project skill ranks on it. In fact, I'm actually using Inspiration on LA.

Mana on kill doesn't help on bosses. Nor does leech when your mana is being absolutely tanked every second.

Appreciate the attempt, but your post was not helpful nor constructive.

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sempuken#7215 wrote:

Socket one physical skill with a leech ring?

You aren't supposed to be able to sustain your dps on deadeye without making a sacrifice.

The sacrifice is lower defences and mana issues. Thiefs also displays this downside since it's only good on bosses and you sacrifice even more defensives.

No amount of leech is going to help, though. Your mana is literally obliterated any time Cast on Shock procs, and if you don't use it, your damage is horrendous.

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Blasphemous84#2190 wrote:

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Ashyev#5110 wrote:

Or maybe stop yourself using every one of those +140% to Mana Cost skill gems on your Lightning Arrow with your +6 to Ranged Skill weapon ?

None of my supports add mana cost, and my bow has zero +project skill ranks on it. In fact, I'm actually using Inspiration on LA.

Mana on kill doesn't help on bosses. Nor does leech when your mana is being absolutely tanked every second.

Appreciate the attempt, but your post was not helpful nor constructive.

Then level down your skill if you want to play with a 10 Intelligence , no investment in Mana through passive / items build because frankly i've done my share of full attack builds and having trouble with mana is a temporary problem quickly fixed by the aforementioned solutions without relying on a lvl 26 unique .

Also i would bet you're not using a Belt or Potions that regen charges on your mana intensive build but keep believing you're ain't the one shooting himself in the foot .

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Ashyev#5110 wrote:

Then level down your skill if you want to play with a 10 Intelligence , no investment in Mana through passive / items build because frankly i've done my share of full attack builds and having trouble with mana is a temporary problem quickly fixed by the aforementioned solutions without relying on a lvl 26 unique .

Also i would bet you're not using a Belt or Potions that regen charges on your mana intensive build but keep believing you're ain't the one shooting himself in the foot .

...of course I'm using a potion that regens charges. You're really bad at giving build advice. lol

I have 140 INT and over 200 DEX in my build. Not sure what 10 INT build you're referring to.

Go ahead and play a Cast on Shock build with any decent skill attached to it. See if your mana isn't gone instantly on bosses. If you think people should be forced to downgrade their gem to play the game, then we're not going to find common ground here. Mana costs and attribute requirements are insane across the entire game.

Instead of sounding like an absolute tool by recommending people use level 25 gems at level 90, perhaps you should expect more from GGG in designing their game.

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Blasphemous84#2190 wrote:

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Ashyev#5110 wrote:

Then level down your skill if you want to play with a 10 Intelligence , no investment in Mana through passive / items build because frankly i've done my share of full attack builds and having trouble with mana is a temporary problem quickly fixed by the aforementioned solutions without relying on a lvl 26 unique .

Also i would bet you're not using a Belt or Potions that regen charges on your mana intensive build but keep believing you're ain't the one shooting himself in the foot .

...of course I'm using a potion that regens charges. You're really bad at giving build advice. lol

I have 140 INT and over 200 DEX in my build. Not sure what 10 INT build you're referring to.

Go ahead and play a Cast on Shock build with any decent skill attached to it. See if your mana isn't gone instantly on bosses. If you think people should be forced to downgrade their gem to play the game, then we're not going to find common ground here. Mana costs and attribute requirements are insane across the entire game.

Instead of sounding like an absolute tool by recommending people use level 25 gems at level 90, perhaps you should expect more from GGG in designing their game.

The only tool i see here is the one basing his level 90 build around a skill he can't substain and try to cope through a lvl 26 unique but keep circling around a fact he took him way too long a time to spill : you want to delete the screen as fast as possible without investing in any passive or item or other work around that would lower your DPS whatsoever .

So go back doing cookie clicker shit if you are that incapable of designing a capable build and think it's all about stacking as much damage as possible . My build suck = game bad mentality in one thread , keep snorting that copium .

Yeah, I can easily understand the problem. I have attack per second 4.7 , about ~1000 mana and regen with passives over 200% and linking stone -40% cost and some +mana per kill. It’s much better than without, mana still gone very fast, but it’s manageable.

Issue, I definitely don't want to use +all projectile skill perks, because cost mana skyrocket in sky. It will be impossible to play and I can't even imagine what I can to do prevent that

But I have no complains, dps isn’t issue at all, it’s just greed😁

Btw I don’t use thief ring, it looks and sounds stupid

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Remiks01#5415 wrote:

Yeah, I can easily understand the problem. I have attack per second 4.7 , about ~1000 mana and regen with passives over 200% and linking stone -40% cost and some +mana per kill. It’s much better than without, mana still gone very fast, but it’s manageable.

Issue, I definitely don't want to use +all projectile skill perks, because cost mana skyrocket in sky. It will be impossible to play and I can't even imagine what I can to do prevent that

But I have no complains, dps isn’t issue at all, it’s just greed😁

Btw I don’t use thief ring, it looks and sounds stupid

It's more than fine to play with + X levels to melee/projectile skills as long as you have your "screen eraser skill" being capable of deleting packs of mobs in 1 or 2 mana expensive hits and meanwhile getting a good source of mana on kill .

When spamming that "screen eraser skill" skill is no longer possible because triggering mana on kill every second is no longer on the table that's where you got to go a different route and Mana Leech will work wonders as long as it got a big physical damage pool to leech from .

Personally when mapping late endgame my Ice Strike will deplete my mana pool in 15 seconds because i have close to zero investments in cost reduction but given i got ~100 mana on kill i could not care less . When encountering a Rare / Unique target it takes 5 seconds to freeze it and then i switch to Bell / Flicker Strike which are doing mostly physical damage and replete my mana faster than a mana flask would .

If mana leech is not possible due to no physical damage being done at all the only way out is to go to other elaborate combinations of mana recoup , skill cost reduction , mana cost -> life cost conversion and so on that will allow you to keep spamming mana like there's no tomorrow .

Anyway mana substain is like the very first thing to figure out in a build way before slapping any offense / defense on it ...