Gearing up, portal gone

Sure you can pay the extra cost to house all of those hundreds of thousands of extra length instances at once.

Portals closing because I took a bit more time to respec and maybe had to friggin read something online about the game, is in top 3 of my worst experience with POE2. I wasted way too much time on this crap because I got too much into respecing, planning, checking my eq, and bang, portal to my boss gone and I need to do a map in campaign again.

Other things that would help: make the time to close instance always the same, and make some notification in the UI that it will close soon.

About costs: keep only the portal-instance for an extended period of time. Especially since I can simply *be* in the instance and pause the game for hours and it is fine.

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scofalik#3840 wrote:

Portals closing because I took a bit more time to respec and maybe had to friggin read something online about the game, is in top 3 of my worst experience with POE2. I wasted way too much time on this crap because I got too much into respecing, planning, checking my eq, and bang, portal to my boss gone and I need to do a map in campaign again.

Other things that would help: make the time to close instance always the same, and make some notification in the UI that it will close soon.

About costs: keep only the portal-instance for an extended period of time. Especially since I can simply *be* in the instance and pause the game for hours and it is fine.

Exactly. You can AFK as long as you want when IN an instance, so why close them after 15?

Can also refresh the portal by going back through & make a new one. Annoying workaround.

All the little gems to dig through to find a good one... These boots have more life but less armor... What should I put in this socket... Do some gambling... Upgrade rares... Check for discount gear with holes... and the portal is gone. sigh.

GGG could just refresh the area, all new mobs, if there really is some server cost. I want to keep the FOW and location, usually near a boss.

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LVSviral#3689 wrote:

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Sidushi#1349 wrote:

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bledatrifle#1038 wrote:

Make portals 30m minimum.

15m portals is a jerk move.

You are slow and that is all, don't open a map if you are not ready for it. 15mins is sufficient time to do everything you need.

I can think of dozens of situations off the top of my head where someone would portal out of a map to go do something for more than 15 minutes before resuming the map. There is no reason for the portal to even expire in the first place outside of server drain perhaps.

Having 30 minutes before you lose your portal is a completely fair thing to have.

You literally nailed why its "8-15 minutes". The range is dependent on server load if I had to take a guess. If there are a large amount of players on using resources then portals will be 8 minutes and then goes up based on how the usage is on the backend. 30 minute portals would brick performance.

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bledatrifle#1038 wrote:

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scofalik#3840 wrote:

Portals closing because I took a bit more time to respec and maybe had to friggin read something online about the game, is in top 3 of my worst experience with POE2. I wasted way too much time on this crap because I got too much into respecing, planning, checking my eq, and bang, portal to my boss gone and I need to do a map in campaign again.

Other things that would help: make the time to close instance always the same, and make some notification in the UI that it will close soon.

About costs: keep only the portal-instance for an extended period of time. Especially since I can simply *be* in the instance and pause the game for hours and it is fine.

Exactly. You can AFK as long as you want when IN an instance, so why close them after 15?

Can also refresh the portal by going back through & make a new one. Annoying workaround.

All the little gems to dig through to find a good one... These boots have more life but less armor... What should I put in this socket... Do some gambling... Upgrade rares... Check for discount gear with holes... and the portal is gone. sigh.

GGG could just refresh the area, all new mobs, if there really is some server cost. I want to keep the FOW and location, usually near a boss.

Not everyone is afking inside an instance so I imagine server load is fluctuating within normal performance, but I would imagine if you enough people paused inside an instance to afk they would change this to kick you out after a certain time.

I dont know why this is even a thing. If you set up a portal for a map, I dont think it should ever disapear unless you can no longer enter that map.

I play since the POE1 beta and it has happened to me too, you get drawn into your skill tree, go get a drink, look at your gear, maybe a few clicks on trade if you don't play SSF, 15 min can go by pretty quick!

That being said, I don't think they'll change it for server performance reasons like it has been said already. They could build in an option that you'd need to activate to make you portal longer though reducing the number of instances you could create but you won't see that in a long time... that would be very low priority on their list.

I can advice you to cut your play-through in small sessions. When you tp to town to empty your bags just throw everything in a quad stash tab and make sure you activated the affinities if you have others types of stash tabs like delirium for example. It will save you a lot of time you can spent on looking at other stuff.

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finish the map, then gear up.
15min is enough time to do trading and get back to map or gear up and get back to map.
15min is enough to restart pc on hdd and load game and get back to map.

I don't need a lot of time when I am in the endgame, because I already know the game and my character is all-around build.

I had bad experience with portal time in the early game, where I wanted to change my gear or re-do some of the passive skill tree before a boss, because e.g. it was resistant to some kind of elemental damage, and my character was just that kind of damage.

And I don't like to use online builds, I like to discover on my own, so for a new player, this is totally not enough time.

If at the very least there was some message that the instance will close soon, or maybe a window dialog that would keep the instance open for another 5 mins after clicking a button, that would be enough. You'd have the instances opened for the players that are actually in the game and want to return to the instance soon, without taking additional resources for the majority of the instances.

Sometimes especially as a new player you get dragged into having to read lots of tooltips and try to work out how you're going to improve. Sometimes this happens triggered by a single good skill gem or item drop.

So you can lose track of time and then find out you lost all your progress.

I would be fine with it being shorter but just give us a 1min warning. That shouldn't be too taxing and would have basically no downside. If you need more time, jump through and return.

It's also odd because the endgame maps for me seem to stay open indefinitely. Which seems inconsistent with it causing performance issues.

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spacecowboy2011#1120 wrote:

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bledatrifle#1038 wrote:

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If you are taking 15 minutes to gear thats more a of you issue than a game issue, it's always been 15 minutes even in poe1. ive never taken more than 5 in my 1k+ hours in poe1 and the 400 in poe2

FU. Some people are slow. 15 is too short to gear up and stuff, this is a fact, not a debate. Measly 15m portals make the game suck.

Don't need your crap in my thread, jerk.

Uh, tone it down there, first off. That was a pretty tame response, you don't need to be an ass about it. They may have been blunt, but they are completely right.

It was an overreaction to an unnecessarily critical and unproductive response.

This is absolutely a problem for newer players, it's not 15 minutes the game says 8-15 and would be trivially easy for them to make some improvements.

The OPs solution might not be great for technical reasons but the complaint is valid and there are other ways this could be addressed.

Like, give a 1min warning. Then it could even be made shorter.