Did GGG really use this patch to double down on all things complained about?

The population is about 60% lower now after 2 days.... Even if Johnathan fixes this game, it'll be too late. Most of us have quit, have a sour taste in our mouths now for PoE 2, pissed about PoE 1's next update taking so damn long, and waiting for LE's update since GGG screwed them over (such a douchebag thing to do btw). The damage is done. The ppl left around are the shills and the super hopefuls. The people who value their time since most of us work and have very LIMITED time, so its value is very high, will play something else till the 17th and go all in on LE's update. I hope Eleventh Hour is watching the shit show over here though! And I really hope GGG never pulls that dick move again and I hope LE just says f' it and never communicates to anyone and just releases updates when their good and ready! The only way 0.2.x becomes good is if they revert the majority of super super super duper duper BAD decisions, and there is soooo damn many. A SLOW game, where loot is scarce and it takes 15 hits to kill a white mob is terrible. Hell, No rest for the wicked is super slow but it doesnt take that many hits to kill trash mobs!!! SMH.
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Yanoa2#4233 wrote:
Am I crazy or did GGG make the game even slower, more sluggish, and just not fun? Nobody wants to fight act 1 bosses for an hour using a stick and a basic spell. I thought this was communicated already.

In other news, when's POE1 patch coming? Can we get a separate, dedicated team, to work on the game we enjoy?


the game IS to be SLOW! There is a reason they split pOE1 and POE2. Because they knew they could nto make a game for BOTH populations..

How hard is to get that if you want fast game you will stay with POE1?
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The population is about 60% lower now after 2 days.... Even if Johnathan fixes this game, it'll be too late. Most of us have quit, have a sour taste in our mouths now for PoE 2, pissed about PoE 1's next update taking so damn long, and waiting for LE's update since GGG screwed them over (such a douchebag thing to do btw). The damage is done. The ppl left around are the shills and the super hopefuls. The people who value their time since most of us work and have very LIMITED time, so its value is very high, will play something else till the 17th and go all in on LE's update. I hope Eleventh Hour is watching the shit show over here though! And I really hope GGG never pulls that dick move again and I hope LE just says f' it and never communicates to anyone and just releases updates when their good and ready! The only way 0.2.x becomes good is if they revert the majority of super super super duper duper BAD decisions, and there is soooo damn many. A SLOW game, where loot is scarce and it takes 15 hits to kill a white mob is terrible. Hell, No rest for the wicked is super slow but it doesnt take that many hits to kill trash mobs!!! SMH.


what? Your math has a problem... it is MONDAY! Not a weekend.. people have JOBS!
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"an hour" fighting a boss with "a stick and a basic spell"

The game direction is good. You're having difficulty because you need to think about your build now.


So thats mean you just can finish the campain with 2 skills right? the rest are for decoration or what? for real these players... why then u want 10000000 skills if u just can use 2 in order to play, absolute garabage state atm
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"an hour" fighting a boss with "a stick and a basic spell"

The game direction is good. You're having difficulty because you need to think about your build now.


Nope lets just stop the get guders right there.

That comes from a game culture where you can win with a dagger at level1.

You have no control over your build.
You have no control over what you are using.
You cannot compare you experience with the game with anybody else because.
Loot is random, mobs are random.

There is no crafting.
There is no player agency.
There is no skill...

Might as well be yelling at a loser at a roulette table.
Focus man!!!! this time focus , win man ... bet on 7... and really try this time.

Its all going to go to shit.

Cause there are no winners, they are just lucky.
There are no losers, they were just unlucky.

There is no experimentation because there is only one approved way to the finish line now.

I am watching a game implode.


There are a couple different points in there. But let's talk about determinism.

My gear has been mediocre, and I am "winging it" with my build (Spear/Huntress). I didn't feel a need to trade for a better weapon until Act 3. I could have transmuted more spears or checked the vendors more, but I didn't.

RNG and determinism will always be variables in the balance. While I agree with you that some level of deterministic crafting is good for the direction, and while I agree with you that early-game has limited options, to say that there is no determinism both with regard to your build and your gear, is incorrect. Should they implement some additional ways to obtain the gear people need to get through the early stages? Sure. But I think the game currently gives you all the tools you need; I got through the first act and the rest of the campaign without much trouble, or any significant "slog" that people are mentioning.

Again, I think my gear has been pretty mediocre. But if I feel my character's power is begining to lag behind, I am actively try to find upgrades or modify my setup.

I think part of the problem is that the gem archetypes are not balanced, so people are having different experiences with different skill choices. But I also think that people are bringing their own preconceptions of what PoE2 is supposed to be, and not looking at the beta in its propper context.
Its why GGG need to clearly communicate what the hell that goal is.

WHen you see a player swinging at a mob for 30 seconds, is that the goal?
Im serious, it could be.
And in that case im ok with it, i don't need to play it.
But i wont come here and shit post cause i know that is the goal .

But i cant really tell what the goal is.
I get not a screen exploding one button , ok i like that.
But a super slog of undying mobs isnt great either.

They undid something ... or i have not hit a pivot point in what im trying to do.
I have played a similar build in 1.0 and I know at some point it picks up.
I just stopped cause i dont feel like fighting the act 2 boss anymore.

Im level 36 I got here at level 30 and spent 6 levels refarming the area before the boss. I need lightning resists or im dead , I don't have them . I have faught him for 5 minutes and still not hit 75% of his health .

But ive come to a different mindset.
I dont see it as me needing it.

The game has 2 hours to supply what i need , or im moving on.
Its not my job to love this game , if it wants to be a slog, ok bye.
I don't need to play it.
Just define what the dev's goal is, they could be nailing it.
Last edited by Jitter912#4278 on Apr 7, 2025, 10:17:53 AM
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"an hour" fighting a boss with "a stick and a basic spell"

The game direction is good. You're having difficulty because you need to think about your build now.


killng white elephants by spoon while avoiding chain stunning crowds with 150% attack speed and hp regen - it's not about difficulty. It's about sluggish and bad design. You can't think about your build because autoatack do more damage than 99% skills. It's litteraly 99% of skills and 80% of ascendancies doesn't work at all. All what you have to think - how to crack this game and make skills work not as it intendent and abuse bugs, bad desingn and glitches.
just check this video about "meaningfull" and "difficult" gameplay:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1jst2ie/the_peak_of_meaningful_combat/

So just stop calling "difficult" what no way difficult at all.

Last edited by ShaDarkLord#6528 on Apr 7, 2025, 10:29:04 AM
here's what i am worried about:
if all of the team from poe 1 is working on poe 2 i am affraid for the future of poe 1 right now i know that this game is "early"i get that but am i the only one fearing that they are so hyper focused on poe 2 they diverted all resources to poe 2 and totally forgot that poe 1 is literally stagnating at this point? and i aalso feel that the poe 1 team that helped lay the overall foundation for poe 2 are simply being ignored? idk its just a feeling ya know?

i feel as if the vison is there but they forgot the foundation .....they forgot where they came from idk just a opinion
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here's what i am worried about:
if all of the team from poe 1 is working on poe 2 i am affraid for the future of poe 1 right now i know that this game is "early"i get that but am i the only one fearing that they are so hyper focused on poe 2 they diverted all resources to poe 2 and totally forgot that poe 1 is literally stagnating at this point? and i aalso feel that the poe 1 team that helped lay the overall foundation for poe 2 are simply being ignored? idk its just a feeling ya know?

i feel as if the vison is there but they forgot the foundation .....they forgot where they came from idk just a opinion


You're not the only one. There's thousands of us.
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