Upcoming Plans for 0.2.0g

Whiniest, loser fanbase in all of gaming. I'd like to blame the influx of new people that came in with PoE2, but unfortunately I think it's the POE1 purists that are the loudest and most annoying.

Yes, the game needs tweaks. It's also missing half of it's content. You knew coming in it would be at least a year before it's mostly all in. So for the love of God, put your big boy pants on and allow them the time to tweak things. If you hate it as much as you constantly claim, please go play something else for a few months. The rest of us realize changes come with data and time, and they WILL get there.

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Seanprice798#2395 wrote:

Whiniest, loser fanbase in all of gaming. I'd like to blame the influx of new people that came in with PoE2, but unfortunately I think it's the POE1 purists that are the loudest and most annoying.

Yes, the game needs tweaks. It's also missing half of it's content. You knew coming in it would be at least a year before it's mostly all in. So for the love of God, put your big boy pants on and allow them the time to tweak things. If you hate it as much as you constantly claim, please go play something else for a few months. The rest of us realize changes come with data and time, and they WILL get there.

Sadly that's what people are doing, they went and play other games. I am having so much fun in Last Epoch that it made this game felt like a job. Not to mention Elder Scroll IV Oblivion remake. With so many good games in ARPG or other genre , you are doing yourself injustice if you stick with something that's not fun.

By the time POE2 does "get there", it'll probably be 1.0 and sure I'll come back, but I'm much rather spend my time playing other fun games than "waiting" for POE2 to "get there".

When the Dev have infinite money and they're just making their vision for like 15 close friends, then sure, make whatever they like. This isn't the case, and these are the consequences.

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Nafhe#5135 wrote:

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Seanprice798#2395 wrote:

Whiniest, loser fanbase in all of gaming. I'd like to blame the influx of new people that came in with PoE2, but unfortunately I think it's the POE1 purists that are the loudest and most annoying.

Yes, the game needs tweaks. It's also missing half of it's content. You knew coming in it would be at least a year before it's mostly all in. So for the love of God, put your big boy pants on and allow them the time to tweak things. If you hate it as much as you constantly claim, please go play something else for a few months. The rest of us realize changes come with data and time, and they WILL get there.

Sadly that's what people are doing, they went and play other games. I am having so much fun in Last Epoch that it made this game felt like a job. Not to mention Elder Scroll IV Oblivion remake. With so many good games in ARPG or other genre , you are doing yourself injustice if you stick with something that's not fun.

By the time POE2 does "get there", it'll probably be 1.0 and sure I'll come back, but I'm much rather spend my time playing other fun games than "waiting" for POE2 to "get there".

When the Dev have infinite money and they're just making their vision for like 15 close friends, then sure, make whatever they like. This isn't the case, and these are the consequences.

Stop being dramatic lol, "these are the consequences!".

I can't with you guys. You're not sticking it to the man by stomping your feet and making all these proclamations. You're just being childish. It's ok if you are playing other stuff, you and all the others will be back just like you always are. GGG will find their groove and the correct balance with loot and all will be fine.

Have some patience and humility ffs. The way people talk about this game and GGG you'd think they broke into your house and stole your dog.

I believe there were no significant issues with the original 0.2 design.
Jonathan, you should remain true to your own vision. This season, you've made too many compromises — and when it comes to compromise, it's either none at all or endlessly repeated. In the long run, this could mean permanently losing the tremendous opportunity that POE2 represents.

That said, if you choose to continue compromising in order to align more closely with POE1, then the result risks becoming nothing more than a hollow imitation — lacking the soul of POE1 and the vision of POE2, ultimately pleasing no one.

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Damordread#6608 wrote:

AT this point I don't want to be a tester for early access anymore. I might log in and try some of the major content additions, but that is about it. I get some people can play all day and most streamers can rock this content. I play about 2 to 3 hours a day if I get that. I just don't have the time to waste on something that is going to be Meah at best. I can't ask for help because all I get is skill issue in chat. And deaths through the roof. I will probably never play end game content; I barely did maps in POE 1, and I played that for years. never even had a level 100 char. I generally don't get enough time to finish a league. So, I played on standard a lot so that I wouldn't lose what I worked so hard to get. In the first week I would test the mechanic and see if I like it. if not, no big deal always have standard. I am probably in the minority with how I play games. You can feel free to play it how you want and have fun in your way. In POE 2 something is just missing, and I know I know it's early access. But for now I am done.... See you next major update exiles.

This is an example that GGG should be paying attention to. They're not "uber" players. Just someone with some spare time trying to have some fun. They're not getting that fun anymore. It's not their fault. The game WAS fun for them at first, and then the rug got pulled out from underneath him.

What's shameful are all the fluffers that try to make players like this feel bad for not liking Jonothan's "Vision". Many a player has said that this "vision" isn't fun for them. Those thoughts are legit.

One thing I've learned over the years is that, when a company does a 180 like this and nerfs down most of the game, they'll never put it back the way it was no matter how many complain. So the fluffers can feel safe and secure that POE 2 wont' go back to 0.1. However, I think that, if we step back and be objective, we can all agree that GGG gave up any hope for GOTY or ARPG of the year for the foreseeable future. It's done. What's left is what's left, and a far cry from what could have been. The fluffers would have stayed anyways if it had stayed like 0.1, but the simple casual gamer will not stay after 0.2.

In case someone is about to ask "why are you still here?", it's because the copium is fun to watch.

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Seanprice798#2395 wrote:

I can't with you guys. You're not sticking it to the man by stomping your feet and making all these proclamations. You're just being childish. It's ok if you are playing other stuff, you and all the others will be back just like you always are. GGG will find their groove and the correct balance with loot and all will be fine.

Have some patience and humility ffs. The way people talk about this game and GGG you'd think they broke into your house and stole your dog.

I swear some of you diehard fans are just Broken inside, not feeling deserving of anything good.

The amount of people ANGRY are angry because game was left for more than 2 weeks being BROKEN. they know loot was bugged, know quantity is trash and they know about all the DDoS attacks.

They didn't have to BRIDGE THEIR VACATIONS they could have gone into work and not only give 1 response from a moderator on reddit.

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tcc060801#1665 wrote:

I believe there were no significant issues with the original 0.2 design.
Jonathan, you should remain true to your own vision. This season, you've made too many compromises — and when it comes to compromise, it's either none at all or endlessly repeated. In the long run, this could mean permanently losing the tremendous opportunity that POE2 represents.

That said, if you choose to continue compromising in order to align more closely with POE1, then the result risks becoming nothing more than a hollow imitation — lacking the soul of POE1 and the vision of POE2, ultimately pleasing no one.

WHATS WRONG WITH UPDATING A GAME? they could have called it SOULS of Exile not Path of Exile TWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Do you think the creators of GTA or The Sims or whatever fkng Lara croft game there is now thought to themselves "oh gee we need to make this CONTINUATION [that is copying at least 70% of content of out continued game] super massively different to let players then decide if they want to stay on V1 or just play the new VISION"

as if people would just be fine with the graphics and feeling of the old game compared to the new improved one?

I really, honnestly, dont understand players nowadays, really.

I dont get it.

We have a game, in EARLY ACCESS, which have a polish i dont even see on finished games.

The game is absolutely stunning, there is love in each animation, in each spell, each monster animation.
This game has a soul, bosses are insane.
Its the best arpg i have ever played in my life from such a distance , i mean for me its THE GAME.
And it gets better and better.
I never really liked poe 1.
Ugly (my taste ) clunky, a planning simulator more than a game as your build makes 99.9999% of the job, after that you press one button to move one to clean the entire screen, or more.
But its known as a legend and i respect that, every one has his taste.
But poe 2 is just... another lvl.
I dont have big playtime like ppl who plays 5-10 (even more ?) hours a day. I play only HC, since dawn of time (since d2 in fact, sc is just not for me )
As an average player with an average time to play i reached maps the two season without any pblm at all. Ok i never died so it helps.
It became so easy that i stopped hc to go HCSSF few days ago, and i am in a2 end now, it is WAY harder as i have no trade and no second chance , but i LOVE it incredibly.
I play the game like a game, with many spells, some situation i run, i craft all i can, i spend my curencies, i mean its awesome.

If the game become easier i will have nothing to play. I mean i am in a2 with -10 light res, but i do care how i play.
What ppl want exactly ? to be in maps in 2h and get 65 divine by the end of the second day ?
I dont mind increasing the loot to craft more because its based on luck, but please, dont destroy the game.
People prefer poe 1 ? Thats a good news, the game still exists.
Please, if i reach maps in hcssf, in my first hcssf char ever, it will be a sign, too easy. I know bosses and strats, but i should never reach maps on my first hcssf char, ever. In regular hc i was trading all currencies for insane low cost stuff, my char was so jacked in few hours i could tank absolutely anything, at least once, defeating the point of the game.
I usually face geo with +-1k hp on a reroll in hc maxed res or almost, in ssf hc i faced geonor with 250 hp, and low res. The stuff does all in this game, it can completely allow an ignorant player to go maps t5+ in hc without the slightest knowledge of the game.

Heck, ppl pay currencies to get the 4 acendencies at lvl 20 lol, i mean, wtf ? , at lvl 20 they get all the extra powers of a lvl 80+ , in hc THIS IS ABSURD.
If ppl want, they just have to spend currencies on trade and acendencies boost, and then they are jacked in few hours to ZOOM the game without the slightest effort, isn't that enough ? no ?
If you boost loot (which i am in, especiially as HCSSF player now) dont lower the difficulty too much please.

Dont destroy your vision, dont let whinners decide everything. The game will be doomed if you dont beliefve in the changes you make.
Just give more control on the craft, more build possibilities, but dont make the game a loot fest.
Look at d4, community whinning destroyed the game, completely, you see screen with 15 legs and 3 mythics , wtf is that ?
Dont let the whinners control your vision GGG, please dont.
And sorry for the bad english, not my native. I have the bad feeling this game will end like poe1, but it is NOT supposed to, its poe 2 for a reason.

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Dont destroy your vision, dont let whinners decide everything. The game will be doomed if you dont beliefve in the changes you make.
Just give more control on the craft, more build possibilities, but dont make the game a loot fest.
Look at d4, community whinning destroyed the game, completely, you see screen with 15 legs and 3 mythics , wtf is that ?
Dont let the whinners control your vision GGG, please dont.
And sorry for the bad english, not my native. I have the bad feeling this game will end like poe1, but it is NOT supposed to, its poe 2 for a reason.

And BOINK! There it is. The people that don't prefer your game modes or difficulty are just "Whiners". They're not different players with their own preferences how they'd like to enjoy an ARPG. Just a threat to the current vision that matches YOUR preferred gameplay.

Relax. GGG is never going to reverse 0.2. In the least, that would make Jonothan eat crow, and he's too proud and stubborn to do that. He's designing a game for him and his buddies. Who knows? Maybe some of these diehard fans will get to group with him someday...at least that seems to be the running hope.

Others...many, many, MANY others see their version of fun and what an ARPG should be differently. For as much as what POE2 could have been, they know there's no going back. So, you essentially got your SSF and HC combined. You don't need all those players. It's a game just for you. Genie in a bottle.

If this game keep the level of loot drops like another time job after human normal work.

Then time to move on to another game with normal human grind.