Streamers who are in hideout 24/7

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Galyan#8109 wrote:

Still doesn't seem to add up. Granted they are trade flipping, it will still take days to make a profit and more often than not it will be at a lost.

Someone feeding them does seem to quite add up but how does the other guy benefit?

I think the most viable explanation for me would be RMT.

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ryszek#5266 wrote:

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Galyan#8109 wrote:

Still doesn't seem to add up. Granted they are trade flipping, it will still take days to make a profit and more often than not it will be at a lost.

Someone feeding them does seem to quite add up but how does the other guy benefit?

I think the most viable explanation for me would be RMT.

https://youtube.com/shorts/UopAUs9HVmQ?si=nCxPSiBEl8auX8lj

The point is you can't expect that no one can do things you can't do lil bro

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Hondo42#9683 wrote:

If that's true, then I'm happy for their prodigal ability to dicker on interweb currency. I think for most people, it sends the wrong message, which is that this is even remotely possible for the vast vast majority of the people who play. Most of us have stuff like jobs. or kids. and those who dont definitely don't have the streamer revenue to back them up. But, I reckon it gets the clicks, eh?

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Direfell#7544 wrote:

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Hondo42#9683 wrote:

If that's true, then I'm happy for their prodigal ability to dicker on interweb currency. I think for most people, it sends the wrong message, which is that this is even remotely possible for the vast vast majority of the people who play. Most of us have stuff like jobs. or kids. and those who dont definitely don't have the streamer revenue to back them up. But, I reckon it gets the clicks, eh?

I'm not sure I understand the criticism. The game rewards players who play more/use their knowledge better and it has a player driven economy. Someone getting more rewards because they played more and understood the market? That seems logical and fair to me.

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Galyan#8109 wrote:

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Direfell#7544 wrote:

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Hondo42#9683 wrote:

The use of knowledge and hedging isn't the problem here. Its the unexplained wealth these streamers have to be able to simply "gamble" 24/7 even at the first week of the league.

How do they get the capital to start this "gambling" and "flipping" that is the question.

If you are willing to watch 50 hours of stream, you can literally watch every click and every action that a person did to go from the drops from the miller at the start of Act 1 to buying a mirror for around 1,300 divine. At first you are trading in stuff like whetstones and armor scraps. I mean for a few whetstones, you can get an exalt. Whetstones are easy to get even for a low level character but high level mappers don't want to bother with salvaging for them. What you start with is almost irrelevant. It is about can you turn what you have into more.

And this is not at the start of the league. This is now, trading today.

It is not really "gambling" when for example they devise a strategy that calculates out to it is going to take on average 187 divine in materials to craft an item that will sell for above 250 divine. High-end crafters are investing thousands of divines to make one item because they know that they will be able to mirror it and make much more than they invested in the long run.

It is not about Real-Money-Trading. It's about an extensive knowledge of trading and crafting. Most players do not have an extensive knowledge of either.

There is no faster way to get the best gear in the game than from crafting/trading. Before long you are dealing in items that cost hundreds of divine each and making many divine each trade. Some people spend thousands of hours crafting. They get just as excited when they roll a perfect item as anyone else does killing the hardest pinnacle boss in the game.

Now, that being said, crafting/trading for 12 hours straight looks about as exciting as preparing taxes and is definitely not a "game" that I want to play, regardless of how many divine I can make.

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Galyan#8109 wrote:

Has this been a topic before?

I'm quite skeptical with these "crafter-gamblers' whose main content is gambling all day and I've never seen them outside their hideout.

It just seems fishy on how they get their currency to get the capital to gamble. And I'd like to dissuade this term "Good crafter" or "God-crafter" Jesus Christ, it takes no skill, its all luck, even then you are most likely to be at a lost with your "gambling". So how the hell can they "gamble" 24/7 and still have abnoxious amount of currency with no mapping whatsoever?

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FanaticGuru#2780 wrote:

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Galyan#8109 wrote:

I'm quite skeptical with these "crafter-gamblers' whose main content is gambling all day and I've never seen them outside their hideout.

It just seems fishy on how they get their currency to get the capital to gamble. And I'd like to dissuade this term "Good crafter" or "God-crafter" Jesus Christ, it takes no skill, its all luck, even then you are most likely to be at a lost with your "gambling". So how the hell can they "gamble" 24/7 and still have abnoxious amount of currency with no mapping whatsoever?

I mean you can literally watch the stream and see how the person makes currency by trading and crafting. There is nothing secret to it.