Fortress pulse-explosion

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

The build that REALLY gets the shaft hard is any pure evasion build. But pure evasion gets the shaft from basically.....everything the game throws at you.

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TayPoE#6379 wrote:

A lot of pages for one guy telling us over and over the hive explosion is overtuned while 99% of the others just talking about the bad defenses.

A classic forum thread.

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ArtCrusade#4438 wrote:

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TayPoE#6379 wrote:

A lot of pages for one guy telling us over and over the hive explosion is overtuned while 99% of the others just talking about the bad defenses.

A classic forum thread.

Some threads are valuable for the information shared, some threads for entertainment value. I reckon this one falls into the 2nd category, unless self-reporting bad defences or poor choices regarding map mods count as valuable info

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Zrevnur#2026 wrote:

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ArtCrusade#4438 wrote:

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TayPoE#6379 wrote:

A lot of pages for one guy telling us over and over the hive explosion is overtuned while 99% of the others just talking about the bad defenses.

A classic forum thread.

Some threads are valuable for the information shared, some threads for entertainment value. I reckon this one falls into the 2nd category, unless self-reporting bad defences or poor choices regarding map mods count as valuable info

Its in the "Feedback and Suggestions" forum. My understanding is thus that the purpose of threads here is to provide feedback and/or suggestions (for GGG I guess). OP also clearly does that at least in part with "This pulse damage needs to be explained and/or nerfed.".

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ArtCrusade#4438 wrote:

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Zrevnur#2026 wrote:

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ArtCrusade#4438 wrote:

Some threads are valuable for the information shared, some threads for entertainment value. I reckon this one falls into the 2nd category, unless self-reporting bad defences or poor choices regarding map mods count as valuable info

Its in the "Feedback and Suggestions" forum. My understanding is thus that the purpose of threads here is to provide feedback and/or suggestions (for GGG I guess). OP also clearly does that at least in part with "This pulse damage needs to be explained and/or nerfed.".

Which was done and dusted ont he first page since OP has 2.5k life and -26% chaos res on a 16.5 map with +60% crit multi and 113% phys as extra chaos.

Everything after that is just fluff

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Zrevnur#2026 wrote:

I dont think so. I still dont understand the Pulse properly. Like here you imply that crit multi matters ~= implying that the Pulse can crit? But can it even crit? My testing suggests that normally it cant Ignite. So either it likely cant crit or it has no Fire damage component. Whats the explanation here?

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ArtCrusade#4438 wrote:

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Zrevnur#2026 wrote:

I dont think so. I still dont understand the Pulse properly. Like here you imply that crit multi matters ~= implying that the Pulse can crit? But can it even crit? My testing suggests that normally it cant Ignite. So either it likely cant crit or it has no Fire damage component. Whats the explanation here?

I don't imply, I assert that it can crit. We can see it with our own eyes in the clip that OP posted. One wave takes him to half health, he recovers back to full, then gets 100 to 0'd with the next one. The pulse does not have such a high variancec in damage, and the 60% extra crit multi explains the huge spike in damage OP takes.

So unless you pull up some poedb data that clearly indicates that the pulse isn't able to crit at all and come up with a different explanation for that huge spike in damage, that's that

The pulse is a spell that deals damage of all types similar to the Hive ring if you aren't aware yet

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Zrevnur#2026 wrote:

Just got another Fortress. Tested again (same way as before). >100 Pulses with char with 17% Ignite Avoid. No Ignites observed. Same result as in previous test. Didnt see any Ignited minions either but didnt watch them for the whole time. Can you explain that?


Edit: IIRC best fit I found in poedb: https://poedb.tw/us/Flesh_Bell But it didnt really seem to fit so I didnt post it in this thread before.

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Cannot inflict Ailments

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ArtCrusade#4438 wrote:

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Zrevnur#2026 wrote:

Just got another Fortress. Tested again (same way as before). >100 Pulses with char with 17% Ignite Avoid. No Ignites observed. Same result as in previous test. Didnt see any Ignited minions either but didnt watch them for the whole time. Can you explain that?


Edit: IIRC best fit I found in poedb: https://poedb.tw/us/Flesh_Bell But it didnt really seem to fit so I didnt post it in this thread before.

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Herald_of_the_Hive

I told you it's similar to the Hive ring, so that also explains why you don't observe ailments. It aligns with my own observations and with what people have been saying, it's visually the same, the damage types match, the tags match. That's it

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Cannot inflict Ailments