Rampant trade bots and GGG stands idle by?

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Bots were present with manual trade. They aren't going anywhere with automated trade.

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hasatt0#7256 wrote:

Bots were present with manual trade. They aren't going anywhere with automated trade.

The question is whether async trade is an improvement over manual trading, all things considered.

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ExsiliumUltra#5541 wrote:

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Bots were present with manual trade. They aren't going anywhere with automated trade.

credit card thedt has always existed and will always exist , so why bother trying to come up with new ways to protect them. That is basically what you are saying.

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AlvinL_#4492 wrote:

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ExsiliumUltra#5541 wrote:

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Bots were present with manual trade. They aren't going anywhere with automated trade.

credit card thedt has always existed and will always exist , so why bother trying to come up with new ways to protect them. That is basically what you are saying.

While I get what you are saying, there is no element of social engineering involved in automating a task vs scamming people for their identity/money.

What is a supposed solution? Ban? This game requires no payment, make a dummy email and reset ip, repeat process N times for a very large N. All of this is automated.

What I would have liked to see is a level limit to global chat. Now to the automated trade as well. Not entirely confident it will have a significant impact, though.

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CAKE#4700 wrote:

There is more effective solution

>Calculate delay between item being bought and item being shown to users
>if this delays shows abnormality(which it does 100% of time when bot buys it) ban account or at least its player to player trading capability including usage of guild chest.


Bots buy the item like 20seconds before it even pings in my live search, they will be banned 100% of time with no false positives using this method. Even if we assume there is real user faster than machine living right next to the server to get first ping, he could not load the instance as fast as these edited clients.
It sounds like foolproof method to me, if bots end up having to use build in-delays to appear more man-like then you can actually have a chance to beat them.

But even this more advanced bot can be solved by second layer, second layer is detection of trade frequence and wins, if the bot wins too much it gets trade timeout for x hours or days. It is not normal for single user to be first to buy 500 underpriced magebloods in row.

Real users are over 30seconds slower.


Captcha method sounds fine at first glance but
1. They just buy captcha solvers in india, it is common solution to this 100% effective too.
2. They can even train AI to solve them, I do not know any captcha that was not solved by AI. "Click on cats" is not exactly hard for modern computer vision.
3. It annoys real users, methods suggested by me are invisible to legitimate player.

There is probably even better solution, i m not some anti-cheat mastermind. Industry veterans can probably solve it in like 1 hour.

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Piousqd#0073 wrote:

I'm not pro-bot or anything. GGG should definitely do something.

But the biggest effect on you as a normal player is lack of mispriced items to snipe. Just pay market value and go about your day.