Chaos damage and why it hurts the game in it's current form.

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GhostlightX wrote:

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C2487233 wrote:

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Expire wrote:

People stack life not just because of chaos damage, but because it is the only worthwhile defensive stat to stack.

And in HC it's all about staying alive (for the most part).

You can remove chaos damage altogether and people will still keep stacking life.

this.

what about HP stacking to avoid stun-lock deaths, freezed-to-death-deaths and shocked-by-a-million-skeletons-and-get-insta-gibbed-deaths?


ive died to those things but havnt died from chaos damage yet.

Have you been to the sewers on Merciless yet?

I doubt that anyone defending the Chaos damage in the game or claiming to have never died to it has.

Or its possible that these people have no clue what chaos damage is, and they've died to it enough times but dont realize what it is.

Also regarding gear, you absolutely WONT have yet acquired enough chaos resist passives on your gear before you get to merciless Chamber of Sins or Act 3 sewers.

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Vooodu wrote:

Part of being a glass cannon means ONE hit will kill you... So, what evs'.

If you make a glass cannon deal with it.

His point is that glass cannons and other "freaky" builds are no more viable in default than they are in hardcore. And he is 100% right.

I didn't read the 10 pages, just want to say that I totally agree with the OP. Chaos damage is one of the things that's currently hurting the game. It's just not fun.

It was fine before open beta, except for the classes that had little ways to mitigate it. They fixed that with the chaos resist passives, mods and amethyst flasks. They put just the right values on these chaos mitigation methods. But yet they shot themselves in the foot by making an un-needed chaos resist penalty.

/off topic
I don't know if I'm late in the news or what, but congrats Invalesco, you're a good addition to the mod team!

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bhavv wrote:

I doubt that anyone defending the Chaos damage in the game or claiming to have never died to it has.

Also regarding gear, you absolutely WONT have yet acquired enough chaos resist passives on your gear before you get to merciless Chamber of Sins or Act 3 sewers.

And that's why there are people doing exactly otherwise and doing maps on merciless hardcore. But you are too chicken shit to see it. Then you waste people's time. Don't care about the time you're wasting. Persist on recycling your jaded thoughts on these forums. Wonder why people keep telling you that you're wrong time after time again.

Ugh...

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GhostlightX wrote:

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Vooodu wrote:

Part of being a glass cannon means ONE hit will kill you... So, what evs'.

If you make a glass cannon deal with it.

His point is that glass cannons and other "freaky" builds are no more viable in default than they are in hardcore. And he is 100% right.

Its even more funny that whenever I post my glass cannon builds on this forum, everyone here only ever replies with ...

'OMG You need MORE HP NODES!!!!11111oneoneoneoneoneoneoneoneone'.

Erm, thats kind of my point, I want to specify damage only. Why cant I successfully play a damage only character when so many other people can successfully play HP only?

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Deceptionist wrote:

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bhavv wrote:

I doubt that anyone defending the Chaos damage in the game or claiming to have never died to it has.

Also regarding gear, you absolutely WONT have yet acquired enough chaos resist passives on your gear before you get to merciless Chamber of Sins or Act 3 sewers.

And that's why there are people doing exactly otherwise and doing maps on merciless hardcore. But you are too chicken shit to see it. Then you waste people's time. Don't care about the time you're wasting. Persist on recycling your jaded thoughts on these forums. Wonder why people keep telling you that you're wrong time after time again.

Ugh...

Maps come AFTER Merciless mr Noobychickenshit.

Maps = endgame, Merciless = just before endgame.

And again, you havnt even beat cruel difficulty yet.

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bhavv wrote:

Maps come AFTER Merciless mr Noobychickenshit.

I was making a point. Your redundancy rubbed off on me. Whoops...

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bhavv wrote:

Its even more funny that whenever I post my glass cannon builds on this forum, everyone here only ever replies with ...

'OMG You need MORE HP NODES!!!!11111oneoneoneoneoneoneoneoneone'.

Erm, thats kind of my point, I want to specify damage only. Why cant I successfully play a damage only character when so many other people can successfully play HP only?

This has become a completely different argument from the original post. Nothing about what's being complained about now is specifying chaos. It's now an argument of offensive survivability vs game difficulty.

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Elynole wrote:

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bhavv wrote:

Its even more funny that whenever I post my glass cannon builds on this forum, everyone here only ever replies with ...

'OMG You need MORE HP NODES!!!!11111oneoneoneoneoneoneoneoneone'.

Erm, thats kind of my point, I want to specify damage only. Why cant I successfully play a damage only character when so many other people can successfully play HP only?

This has become a completely different argument from the original post. Nothing about what's being complained about now is specifying chaos. It's now an argument of offensive survivability vs game difficulty.

Its entirely to do with chaos, if you dont take HP passives, that chaos damage on merciless finishes you off before you can even blink. ... If you can even get to Merciless anymore without a single HP passive, I know I cant.

HP = Chaos damage.

The original post specified that life stacking or CI are the only way to survive Chaos damage, read that a bit better then maybe you will understand how discussing HP nodes is relevant to this thread.

Chaos damage originally was the non-resist-able element, now its just out of place... Probably should segregate it from poison damage too.