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Dudebag wrote:
my Q is
why are top players doing so fine?
Because at least 50% of their passive tree is HP and or ES with CI, exactly what the short TLDR summary in the OP stated, which you obviously didnt read.
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Posted bybhavv#7360on Feb 18, 2013, 1:32:40 PM
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WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG !!!!!
How WRONG can a person possibly get?
Elemental resists are piss easy to acquire compared to chaos damage. Elemental resist passives are far more plentiful and stronger. Elemental resist gear is far more plentiful, common, and stronger. Elemental resist also comes in an aura spell called Purity.
I'm farming Chamber of sins constantly atm. I have 60 cold resist, 66 fire, and 71 lightning EASY. I'm sat on -38 chaos resist however and the only thing that I ever see my groups and my character dying from in there is the chaos damage and the end boss.
I'm not sure that you understand how Chaos damage is supposed to work, it's NOT supposed to be easy to defend against...it never has been. It wasn't in CB either. Adding an additional few chaos resistance nodes to the bottom of the tree would nullify this.
It really sounds like you're trying to just make chaos damage easy to defend against, unfortunately....easy mode spray and pray full-DPS class builds isn't how this game should be balanced from.
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Posted byElynole#2906on Feb 18, 2013, 1:32:48 PMAlpha Member
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bhavv wrote:
WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG !!!!!
How WRONG can a person possibly get?
Elemental resists are piss easy to acquire compared to chaos damage. Elemental resist passives are far more plentiful and stronger. Elemental resist gear is far more plentiful, common, and stronger. Elemental resist also comes in an aura spell called Purity.
I'm farming Chamber of sins constantly atm. I have 60 cold resist, 66 fire, and 71 lightning EASY. I'm sat on -38 chaos resist however and the only thing that I ever see my groups and my character dying from in there is the chaos damage and the end boss.
I'm not sure that you understand how Chaos damage is supposed to work, it's NOT supposed to be easy to defend against...it never has been. It wasn't in CB either. Adding an additional few chaos resistance nodes to the bottom of the tree would nullify this.
It really sounds like you're trying to just make chaos damage easy to defend against, unfortunately....easy mode spray and pray full-DPS class builds isn't how this game should be balanced from.
CB didnt have -60% penalty, nor act 3 sewers, and it also had broken and overpowered CI, so Chaos damage was NEVER an issue in CB in the first place.
I just have to laugh at your ignorance of thinking that chaos damage wasnt easy to defend against in CB when there was never any penalty to it on higher difficulties, there was no act 3, and CI was OP with +50% ES.
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Posted bybhavv#7360on Feb 18, 2013, 1:34:16 PM
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Wow, everyone so passionate... 0.o
The issue I have is that unless you plan to corpse drag your way though parts of merci and avoid hardcore all together. You absolutely with no exceptions have to have chaos resist on majority of your gear AND invest in life nodes or use CI and invest in ES nodes heavily.
In CB if you had a little life, and huge ES tank you could get by with life regen or leech mods to avoid chaos, you could spec into blocking, evasion, acrobatics, or even use minions or totems to distract and still deal with chaos damage.
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i dont hear build diversity issues from top players.
some of them are actually enjoying how to come up with OP build.
are we sure its not us that lacking knowledge?
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Posted byDudebag#0222on Feb 18, 2013, 1:35:17 PM
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Deceptionist wrote:
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jimi89 wrote:
By the way, you aren't at all good at 'dealing with people'. If you were you wouldn't come off as a condescending douche in every post.
Ahh, but my clueless friend, you have no idea how backwards society and humanity is. I'm not the condescending one here. It's the people who think they can complain and only agree with their close-minded viewpoints, whilst a small number of people out there live as the very contradictions. Then when one of those people from the small group meet up with a person they contradict, the contradicted person raises a red flag and acts in the same way as you did. ''OMG. YOU ARE DISPROVING ME. I MUST MAKE UP NEGATIVE IMPRESSIONS TO SAVE MY PETTY PRIDE!''. I am very familiar with the human race. Nothing you say bothers me, which is why I'm not condescending. I'm brutally honest. I'm passionate. I'm just as human as you, but like everything in this world, some things are stronger than others. In this case, I have more information and knowledge about what is and what isn't in this game. You don't. You're young, naive and vastly precarious about the deeply rooted complexities of a game where you clearly don't have even the surface figured out.
I would agree with you if there weren't people doing exactly the opposite you complain about. However, there are. So you're a minor case of mental flatulence to me.
Hahahaha xD
Troll harder why don't you? NO ONE is this insanely clueless about life and humanity without being a troll (or trying to be) or a home-schooled mommy's favourite xD All y'all answering this puff of meaningless air should be ashamed - back to the real discussion for the adults!
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Posted bymkmaddage#1774on Feb 18, 2013, 1:36:09 PM
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Dudebag wrote:
i dont hear build diversity issues from top players.
some of them are actually enjoying how to come up with OP build.
Thats funny. When I had a chat with the top players in the game farming maps and having pwned merciless, they all told me the same one thing - 'You have to stack HP to be valid in the endgame'.
Most of them simply dont care because they actually ENJOY stacking HP and building tanks. I do not.
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Posted bybhavv#7360on Feb 18, 2013, 1:37:34 PM
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Elynole wrote:
The argument was about why chaos damage isn't working currently - personally I feel adding some chaos resistance nodes to the bottom portion of the tree for marauder/duelist/ranger would make great strides in equalizing this and giving more options to chaos resistance for them other than gear.
I have to disagree with this. While it would certainly help equalize things, it'd be yet one more type of defense passive to invest into. As if we don't have enough defensive things to think about right now (especially as melee marauder/duelist).
Also, I feel it would reduce build diversity even more by making characters take the path that maxes out life AND crosses all chaos resists nodes.
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Posted byThalandor#0885on Feb 18, 2013, 1:37:52 PM
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I really would like to hear of one.
I myself don't have one, and I cannot recall any names because I literally suck at names and numbers. So I will leave it to those that I am talking about to explain to you what I can't explain on a personal level. I simply know when people are making a big deal out of a problem they haven't been able to come up with a rational solution for. This is where my experience reigns. I cross-reference your complaints to other people's successes, and this is why I know what I'm saying even if I haven't experienced it myself: I study others that have.
You don't have one because you're wrong. Chaos resistance is overtaxed. You get a -60% malice while the passive tree only has +40% throughout the entire thing. Then your gears give less chaos resist then any other type of resist per affix: and the affix is rarer. The 60% tax makes chaos damage purely retarded. As it is currently implemented chaos damage is a negative source of build denial and not a reasonable obstacle.
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Posted byFlickerflare#2715on Feb 18, 2013, 1:38:45 PM
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mkmaddage wrote:
Hahahaha xD
Troll harder why don't you? NO ONE is this insanely clueless about life and humanity without being a troll (or trying to be) or a home-schooled mommy's favourite xD All y'all answering this puff of meaningless air should be ashamed - back to the real discussion for the adults!
Wait for it...
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