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dr3af wrote:
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bhavv wrote:
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Dudebag wrote:
you wanna go full galss cannon from beginning? well sir, you are playing it wrong.
Im playing the game EXACTLY how the developers have said I could.
I dont get what makes you the judge on how that is wrong. Full glass cannons from the beginning have little to no difficulty on normal difficulty.
So you're not making a glass cannon then.
To settle your arguement. Can you please give as a small "guide" on how you played you character,with what passive skills,what active skill and support gems plus your gear?
Easy, this build:
With Freezing Pulse + LMP, Ice Wall + Increased Duration, Ice Nova + Added Lightning damage, and Ice Spears + LMP + Faster Projectiles.
Couldnt do anything against Hailrake, Fetid Pool, or Flicker Mobs in Ghost Ship / Allflame quest on cruel difficulty, so I gave up on it and made a new 'tankier' ES character instead.
Note that at the time of making the build in OB, I had no clue that HP / ES were needed to win the game. I made the exact same frost templar in CB and had no difficulty anywhere.
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Posted bybhavv#7360on Feb 18, 2013, 3:00:05 PM
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bhavv wrote:
Easy, this build:
With Freezing Pulse, Ice Wall + Increased Duration, Ice Nova + Added Lightning damage, and Ice Spears + LMP + Faster Projectiles.
Couldnt do anything against Hailrake, Fetid Pool, or Flicker Mobs in Ghost Ship / Allflame quest on cruel difficulty, so I gave up on it and made a new 'tankier' ES character instead.
Note that at the time of making the build in OB, I had no clue that HP / ES were needed to win the game. I made the exact same frost templar in CB and had no difficulty anywhere.
You did it wrong.
Critical Chance is what makes Ice builds so powerful, not % cold damage nodes. Because you can freeze/slow lock all your incoming enemies. You need a ton shit more critical chance.
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Posted byElynole#2906on Feb 18, 2013, 3:03:21 PMAlpha Member
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bhavv wrote:
Easy, this build:
With Freezing Pulse, Ice Wall + Increased Duration, Ice Nova + Added Lightning damage, and Ice Spears + LMP + Faster Projectiles.
Couldnt do anything against Hailrake, Fetid Pool, or Flicker Mobs in Ghost Ship / Allflame quest on cruel difficulty, so I gave up on it and made a new 'tankier' ES character instead.
Note that at the time of making the build in OB, I had no clue that HP / ES were needed to win the game. I made the exact same frost templar in CB and had no difficulty anywhere.
What distraction you where using? what crowd control? also tell us a bit for your gear.
Also,what Elynole said.
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Posted bydr3af#6813on Feb 18, 2013, 3:03:45 PM
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Elynole wrote:
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bhavv wrote:
Easy, this build:
With Freezing Pulse, Ice Wall + Increased Duration, Ice Nova + Added Lightning damage, and Ice Spears + LMP + Faster Projectiles.
Couldnt do anything against Hailrake, Fetid Pool, or Flicker Mobs in Ghost Ship / Allflame quest on cruel difficulty, so I gave up on it and made a new 'tankier' ES character instead.
Note that at the time of making the build in OB, I had no clue that HP / ES were needed to win the game. I made the exact same frost templar in CB and had no difficulty anywhere.
You did it wrong.
Critical Chance is what makes Ice builds so powerful, not % cold damage nodes. Because you can freeze/slow lock all your incoming enemies. You need a ton shit more critical chance.
Critical chance would be taken next FYI. I was doing it right.
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Posted bybhavv#7360on Feb 18, 2013, 3:05:06 PM
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so you took all the dmg nodes ...
clearly failing on balancing.
truly playing the wrong game with wrong style.
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Posted byDudebag#0222on Feb 18, 2013, 3:07:02 PM
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Dudebag wrote:
so you took all the dmg nodes ...
clearly failing on balancing.
truly playing the wrong game with wrong style.
That's not the current problem yet. We are still waiting the distractions he used,the way to keep the enemies from hitting him.
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Posted bydr3af#6813on Feb 18, 2013, 3:09:46 PM
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bhavv wrote:
The exact same build had no problem with the first 3 difficulties in CB, as I've mentioned time and time again.
Ever thought that this could be the reason they made the game more difficult going into OB, because they saw time and time again in races people speccing full DPS and just rolling through the game like they were playing Candyland.
I understand, you want that back. Gum drops, honeydew, and candy canes.
And currently you can spec fully into HP and defense and just roll through the entire game like you are playing in candyland. And that is any different how?
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Posted bybhavv#7360on Feb 18, 2013, 3:09:47 PM
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dr3af wrote:
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Dudebag wrote:
so you took all the dmg nodes ...
clearly failing on balancing.
truly playing the wrong game with wrong style.
That's not the current problem yet. We are still waiting the distractions he used,the way to keep the enemies from hitting him.
Didnt have those yet, I was waiting for the Spell Totem reward which was much later in the game.
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Posted bybhavv#7360on Feb 18, 2013, 3:10:50 PM
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bhavv wrote:
Critical chance would be taken next FYI. I was doing it right.
People don't use Ice builds for the damage, they use it for the crit to continue to do damage so they don't get WTFPWNED. When you crit, you freeze the enemy. Thus, allowing you to continue to do damage. You needed to take critical chance right off the bat to survive and less damage - damage would be taken more towards mid-end-game.
Pure Ice builds are awesome, they're a lot of fun and are super effective...but it's because of the crit, not the damage.
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Posted byElynole#2906on Feb 18, 2013, 3:11:19 PMAlpha Member
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Dudebag wrote:
so you took all the dmg nodes ...
clearly failing on balancing.
truly playing the wrong game with wrong style.
Wrong style? So again you ignore that the devs have said you can play with a full damage build if you want to:
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11. Are there defined roles for players, like tanking, healing and sustained damage?
While we don't have concrete defined roles for any class, there's enough customization with passive and active skills that a player can focus on one type of play. A Marauder, for example, can load up on hit point buffing skills and taunts, and a Ranger could focus purely on offensive skills. We do not intend to have a dedicated healer role.
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Posted bybhavv#7360on Feb 18, 2013, 3:12:09 PM
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