[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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pelicanada wrote:

word ill try out the anvil. i have an unending hunger gem and the rest are maxlife/dex/minion cast speed. those are them right? im sure theres better but im poor (:

If you're on a budget, look for life or mana / attack and cast speed / increased minion damage or minion damage if you've used a minion skill recently or minion attack and cast speed if you or your minions have killed recently.

Actually, just use this filter: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Abyss/njbnjygsy

Those are damn cheap, one of the bonuses of playing SGs is that you don't need to break the bank on jewels.

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pelicanada wrote:

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I don't swap gems. Well I do because you can make some excellent currency by selling corrupted gems (28ex so far this league selling level 21 gems) but you don't have to at all. The only gem I ever swap for hard content is GMP for Slower Projectile, literally 1 gem to swap and even then it's optional, I've done Shaper just leaving GMP in.

I keep a full set of level 21 or 23 quality gems in my stash for hard content, it's been over a week since I've bothered to use them.

i've basically entirely switched to try and mimic your gear to try out SG's minus the neck as i'm kinda poor. how do you feel about vaal haste vs just a normal haste aura? have you tried both? just curious

Go with what pelicanada said, no need to invest in a + curse neck if funds are tight. I have a few different ones since I got lucky with drops early on this season but they are by no means required.

Only issue with haste is the rather extreme mana reservation and mana is our life with MoM so I prefer vaal haste for that reason. Speaking of mana, I finally caved and bought a shield with % mana returned on block. It makes a rather remarkable difference in survivability. If you can get a decent one for cheap I strongly suggest it.

As for jewel's you need enough dex for GMP and Projectile Weakness if you decide to use that curse, otherwise life/mana and minion damage/cast speed are great for SG's. My jewels are very low budget but get the job done just fine. You need 155 dex for level 20 gems, I'm not sure if the dex requirement goes up if you vaal them to 21 but otherwise 155 is enough.

I should also stress that 6 link is nice but not required. I killed Shaper on a 5 link without controlled destruction before I 6 linked.

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notoriousjack9 wrote:

What level would you recommend I get to before trying guardians/shapers? This is with all the endgame required gears.

As long as you have max level spectres and high end gems, you can run shaper and the guardians with a tabula or 5L vis mortis.

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Wukufyze wrote:

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ithanium2 wrote:

Just got my hands on this. I wonder, does immolate work with TV spectres?

Since TV's use SR totems, immolate is useless for them because they aren't "hitting" anything.

Ok then, what about for SG then?

I want this summoner to be mainly a boss killer (Uber Atziri, Shaper, Shaper Guardians).

Atm, I am using TV's in my helm and FG's in my 5link vis mortis.

Got any advice?

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ithanium2 wrote:

Ok then, what about for SG then?

I want this summoner to be mainly a boss killer (Uber Atziri, Shaper, Shaper Guardians).

Atm, I am using TV's in my helm and FG's in my 5link vis mortis.

Got any advice?

You want to use 3-4 TV's for Shaper and Uber Atziri. Your FG's are just a bonus, and don't contribute much in those fights (one of the main reasons why I dropped FG all together)

For Guardians I prefer 2 TV / 2 SG.

Keep in mind that, as I've mentioned before in the thread, I no longer like FG's. I feel that you can get a lot further with a lot less investment (currency and passives) by running TV's in the helm and SG's in the body armour. I've been totally shreddding 99% of t15+ map mods with 3SG/1TV and only 1x unending hunger jewel, as 2 of them are massive overkill. This saves you 3x jewel sockets if you go the SG route.

But again, like I always say, your mileage may vary. There are people doing t15+ who still love their FG's, but it's just my experience.

Hey mates!

I need an advice ob my AG...

My AG is at 26.5k Life + Fortify Gem linked....

Is that enough to survive Shaper Guardians or do I need an empower instead of Fortify? Or even a +2 helmet plus Empower?

Thx for the help!

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Wukufyze wrote:

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ithanium2 wrote:

Ok then, what about for SG then?

I want this summoner to be mainly a boss killer (Uber Atziri, Shaper, Shaper Guardians).

Atm, I am using TV's in my helm and FG's in my 5link vis mortis.

Got any advice?

You want to use 3-4 TV's for Shaper and Uber Atziri. Your FG's are just a bonus, and don't contribute much in those fights (one of the main reasons why I dropped FG all together)

For Guardians I prefer 2 TV / 2 SG.

Keep in mind that, as I've mentioned before in the thread, I no longer like FG's. I feel that you can get a lot further with a lot less investment (currency and passives) by running TV's in the helm and SG's in the body armour. I've been totally shreddding 99% of t15+ map mods with 3SG/1TV and only 1x unending hunger jewel, as 2 of them are massive overkill. This saves you 3x jewel sockets if you go the SG route.

But again, like I always say, your mileage may vary. There are people doing t15+ who still love their FG's, but it's just my experience.

Well, I am not such a big fan of the FG's. Clearspeed wise they are kinda meh...but then again, my gems are not lvl20.

Idk if a 5link spectre is better then a 5link golem.

Also, if I consider running dual spectre, would running SG in helm benefit from the immolate support?

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Dropee wrote:

Hey mates!

I need an advice ob my AG...

My AG is at 26.5k Life + Fortify Gem linked....

Is that enough to survive Shaper Guardians or do I need an empower instead of Fortify? Or even a +2 helmet plus Empower?

Thx for the help!

with 4%+regen, should be enough, but timing convocation from time to time won't hurt

Regarding AG.

Would this expensive setup be best?

2x Dyadus
Kaoms Heart
Gang's Momentum
Doedres Scorn or bone helmet
Rare gloves

1 question, the chance to ignite support compared to minion/totem resists offers :

-10% more damage (29 % vs 19%)
-and another 10% increase from quality (minor bonus)

The question i wanna ask is
"DO TOTEMS SUMMONED FROM TUKOHAMAS GET THE BONUS RESISTS ?"

if yes does it make them significantly more survivable ?