[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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Phenomena wrote:
Regarding AG.

Would this expensive setup be best?

2x Dyadus
Kaoms Heart
Gang's Momentum
Doedres Scorn or bone helmet
Rare gloves


Pretty sure that animate guardian have absurd default life from the start, so even if we disregard absurd cost of kaom's heart - it won't do much anyway. We would be better stack "increase life" instead.
Also, without ice tomb, chill of dyadus would be way too short, which isn't good

Gang's Momentum is useless, cause it will only boost AG's damage, which is almost nonexistent.

Doedres Scorn - again, only boost AG's damage.

bone helmet - same
Have anyone tested Doryani's fist gloves on an AG?

All your minions are unarmed ...the massive bouns would be enormous if it applied to all your other minions
Last edited by Phenomena on Jan 4, 2018, 7:44:56 AM
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Phenomena wrote:
Have anyone tested Doryani's fist gloves on an AG?

All your minions are unarmed ...the massive bouns would be enormous if it applied to all your other minions


Ok, i already told you on previous post, but looks like you still have some misunderstanding on mechanics of the game.

Anything that was equiped on AG - affect only AG. The same as your own equipment that affect only you. If you wear gloves with added damage - minions will not benfit from it. They will benefit only from "minion damage" modificator. And in case of AG, spectres not his minions, but yours, so even "minion damage" modificator will not be in effect if you equip AG with it.

Dyadus affect DPS of our minions because of wording - Enemies Chilled by you take 100% increased Burning Damage.

Basically, AG debuff target and that's why everyone who attack that target deal more damage. But every modificators like "increase damage" applied only to wearer. By the way, Doryani's fist wouldn't applly even to AG, cause he is dualwielding dyadus.

AG can help only in "debuff target", or "aura for allies" things.
Last edited by Med1umentor on Jan 4, 2018, 8:02:59 AM
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Med1umentor wrote:
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Phenomena wrote:
Have anyone tested Doryani's fist gloves on an AG?

All your minions are unarmed ...the massive bouns would be enormous if it applied to all your other minions


Ok, i already told you on previous post, but looks like you still have some misunderstanding on mechanics of the game.

Anything that was equiped on AG - affect only AG.


Wrong for Leer Cast (helm)
Wrong for Drying Breath (weapon)
Wrong for Zahndethus' Cassock (body, the item did it... it heals party)
Wrong for Victario's Flight (boots, GREAT for this build)
Wrong for gloves that cast a curse on hit (gloves)

If I could come up with a belt, you could be wrong for ever slot!!

I do agree that focusing on % life is better than flat life. For resists, having ice tomb provides a huge amount of cold resistance. Having a glove with high fire/resistances will round out elemental resists.
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ImAncient wrote:
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Med1umentor wrote:
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Phenomena wrote:
Have anyone tested Doryani's fist gloves on an AG?

All your minions are unarmed ...the massive bouns would be enormous if it applied to all your other minions


Ok, i already told you on previous post, but looks like you still have some misunderstanding on mechanics of the game.

Anything that was equiped on AG - affect only AG.


Wrong for Leer Cast (helm)
Wrong for Drying Breath (weapon)
Wrong for Zahndethus' Cassock (body, the item did it... it heals party)
Wrong for Victario's Flight (boots, GREAT for this build)
Wrong for gloves that cast a curse on hit (gloves)

If I could come up with a belt, you could be wrong for ever slot!!

I do agree that focusing on % life is better than flat life. For resists, having ice tomb provides a huge amount of cold resistance. Having a glove with high fire/resistances will round out elemental resists.


Or maybe... just maybe... you could actually read what i wrote and quit spiting bullshit.

All of those are auras which was even specifically mentioned by me (which actually not even needed mentioning, cause it's obvious).

I repeat, everything affecting only AG that was equipped with it. That's exactly why leer cast even usable (or else it would only lower damage for everything).

Don't just pop in into conversation that you don't have any idea what about. and don't bring words out of context.
Has anyone tried running hall of grand masters with the build? I can't seem to kill Zami, other threads suggest using a 5 link scorching ray. Just wondering if there's a simpler way.

Cheers!
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Has anyone tried running hall of grand masters with the build? I can't seem to kill Zami, other threads suggest using a 5 link scorching ray. Just wondering if there's a simpler way.

Cheers!

Considering that you are in burning spectres thread, and didn't state otherwise, then you should run Tukohama's vanguard spectres, so why you ever have problem with block builds if your main damage don't "hit" anyway?

P.S. Now i see from your profile that you are using SG probably. Anyway, don't forget to state that in the begining, we are not espers here.
Last edited by Med1umentor on Jan 4, 2018, 10:00:22 AM
Hello, I asked this a while back but never received an answer.

If I spectral throw a Dyadus from my offhand do I apply the chill and burning damage buff?

Thanks!
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Has anyone tried running hall of grand masters with the build? I can't seem to kill Zami, other threads suggest using a 5 link scorching ray. Just wondering if there's a simpler way.

Cheers!


Some said that in 3.0, you can use clear with TV + WM and WM has especially strong melee attacks against the masters (except the max block guys of course). Just try to reraise them if they're dead.

In 3.1, WM only got its righteous fire nerf so it should still be okay. I have not tried so I cannot testify anything.
Hi guys,
I'm the dude refusing to use Vis Mortis, and today I roasted Shaper with my 2 TVs and WM.
First time ever.

I wish I could say deathless, but it was butt ugly. Me hyperventilating, making panic descisions all over the place.

For the first time, I lost my AG and had to rebuy a completely new set, while the reset-timer on portals were ticking (IK - badly prepped. I even did first half of Shaper with l81 Spectres *s*).
And for the first time, Spectre's hp bar moved like 25%.

Starforge in stash, tons of i86 crafting mats and even 1 portal remaining.
I'm a happy camper.





Last edited by Ragnwald on Jan 4, 2018, 11:08:57 AM

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