[3.21] 🌿Ultimate Claw Poison Pathfinder - Untouchable Viper - Molten Strike update by FEL

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Corioliss wrote:

And even if the "increased buff effect" gets nerfed to the ground completely you could still go Chaos res while affected by HoAg + increased chaos damage while affected by HoAg. A little worse for sure, but not by that much.

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TorsteinTheFallen wrote:

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Orangesilk wrote:

Heavy armor investment could still pay off via the new historic keystone that lets armor apply to elemental damage. We could compliment that with a Rumi's and see how it turns out.

Where is that keystone i cant find it?

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wakasm wrote:

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TorsteinTheFallen wrote:

Are you including 15 Wither stacks in that calculation?

Congrats on the baby! :D

I usually only set it to 10 wither stacks in my poison calculations . I prefer my POB damage to be less than optimal since I find if I rely too hard on max potential, I make bad gear choices while leveling, so i always try to dumb it down a little bit where I can.

When I was playing with it in POB, and messing with cluster jewels and a gg claw, I was able to get it to 3 million. I think my actual character reached 1.6 million, and then I also kept Plague Bearer just because I never had the time to really get my gear to culling strike + mana ready which made up the extra damage since it charges almost instantly at all times.

I also was stacking wicked palls for a while so VMS would last way longer, and then I was stacking Low tolerance as well, which, I couldn't figure out the math for. (it felt like it was strong while mapping but something tells me that it's actually probably not ideal for Venom Gyre).

I wish I focused a bit more on attack speed somehow.

However, since I was so focused on trying to catch up in Challenges, most maps I just zoomed through. T16, alch, sextant, perandus or scarab, and gooo. I think in the last 5 hours of play I did like 80 bonuses on maps and another 40 awakened unlocks just trying to refresh my hideout stuff and zana for a cortex to drop. With VMS + Max Block on the shield + Witheringstep (and dash), even at max delirium, it was possible to survive most things, even with my less than optimal hp.

The only part I struggled with was managing VMS and MS on late game bosses like Sirus 8 or Uber elder properly. I would sometimes get 1 shot just because of my stupidity. I also had an issue with mana and that my attack in place would trigger a walk if I ran too low. I never full fixed that, but that made me walk into things I shouldn't have.

I imagine your stronger variants would help with that, but it was all still very doable, just not perfect. I meant to experiment with command of steel, but never got the chance to, and now it's gone.

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Orangesilk wrote:

Huh, could you link your PoB please?

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qawsican wrote:

Just updated my POB Fork and my dps went from 11.8mil to 10.4mil so ~10% dps loss more or less. Still more than enough dmg to clear all content but with VMS dead, we'll have to see.

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qawsican wrote:

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Orangesilk wrote:

Huh, could you link your PoB please?

This was my character from Delirium: https://pastebin.com/4b5ifimm

I think VMS will still be okay since my regular Molten Shell was giving me 10k eHP with my flasks. VMS + Molten Shell gave me around 30k eHP and I never even used half of it before it expired on Kosis @ wave 20 or maxed out delirium t16s.

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blastinMot wrote:

Just a heads up for anyone getting too excited for these numbers:
This is with vaal haste, 3 frenzy charges (through blood rage), onslaught (5% on kill through jewel), 3 spider web stacks and "enemy is a boss? => no" in PoB.
With shaper in PoB and all the on kill effects removed for bossing, its closer to 3,5m without wither/spider stacks or 7,6m with full spider/wither.

This is not take away from your character, just to put it into perspective and don't have everyone load it into PoB as instantly as I did ;)

Its obviously still enough damage to do endgame content comfortably.

From looking over it the "blind on hit" jewels seems unnecessary, because you should have a smoke cloud up (which blinds enemies) through stibnite flask a lot of the time.

Regarding 3.11 - what's with the Warcry stuff?
Enduring Cry sounds solid without having all the numbers yet. Maybe coupled with VMS or another guard skill?

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blastinMot wrote:

Regarding 3.11 - what's with the Warcry stuff?
Enduring Cry sounds solid without having all the numbers yet. Maybe coupled with VMS or another guard skill?

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ItIsBobFgt wrote:

Oof, the VMS nerf was to be expected tho, I was really hyped up to play this build this league. Do you guys have a suggestion for a similar build I could run with pestilent strike? Should I go for a shadow build or would path finder still be fine?

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ItIsBobFgt wrote:

Oof, the VMS nerf was to be expected tho, I was really hyped up to play this build this league. Do you guys have a suggestion for a similar build I could run with pestilent strike? Should I go for a shadow build or would path finder still be fine?

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qawsican wrote:

Ah that's my bad, Delirium was the first time/league I REALLY used POB (other than the skill tree) and it's calculation tab so I didn't realize I could change the enemy type. I'll edit my previous post so people don't get confused with the numbers, thanks for checking it for me.

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TorsteinTheFallen wrote:

Nothing is broken beyond repair, it's just very f***** tedious to update the build and find solutions when GGG released patch notes 2 days before league start without gems info and other stuff.

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blastinMot wrote:

Well, every other (or most of them) has to deal with it as well. So it's still fair game and part of the "fun" going in to a new league.

I'll probably league start with this build anyway, because I honestly just liked it so much last league.

Also for me the VMS thing is probably not as bad as it looks on paper.
On fully loaded maps or simulacrum wave 20 you couldn't have it up all the time and you still didn't die constantly.

Looking forward to the new league mechanic.
May be this has something nice to craft in store for this build...