[3.21] 🌿Ultimate Claw Poison Pathfinder - Untouchable Viper - Molten Strike update by FEL

Hadn't even thought of going for Aisling slam at that point given the weights for a physical roll don't seem as horrible as I've experienced, but tbh if we're calling the post earlier in the thread the claw crafting guide, maybe that bit should be in there too.

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Macca84 wrote:

Hadn't even thought of going for Aisling slam at that point given the weights for a physical roll don't seem as horrible as I've experienced, but tbh if we're calling the post earlier in the thread the claw crafting guide, maybe that bit should be in there too.

While getting phys in general might not be too impossible, getting a reasonably high roll like this one is definately far easier going with the aisling variant.

And in regards to the guide - this all just works if u get a specific relic with the invocation which probably won´t work again next season. So it is very specific for 3.20 and not something that needs to be in a general approach-guide.

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And in regards to the guide - this all just works if u get a specific relic with the invocation which probably won´t work again next season. So it is very specific for 3.20 and not something that needs to be in a general approach-guide.

I was specifically talking about the fact that the Aisling slam is missing from the claw crafting section of the guide.

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Macca84 wrote:

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And in regards to the guide - this all just works if u get a specific relic with the invocation which probably won´t work again next season. So it is very specific for 3.20 and not something that needs to be in a general approach-guide.

I was specifically talking about the fact that the Aisling slam is missing from the claw crafting section of the guide.

There´s no way to make everyone happy. If that move gets put in the next person comes along and is concerned about the cost of the claw. As far as I know, Thorstein trys to keep the costs of the build as low as possible for everyone to play, hence Forbidden Jewels or an Onslaught-Implicit Circle of nostalgia are not part of the PoB, yet I use them.
At some point u gotta take responsibility to make your own changes and improvements to the build if you wanna push it even further and personally I think it is a bit lazy to ask for EVERYTHING to be laid out perfectly. Also, if you come here and ask the people that pushed further we would have been happy to help and adress certain upgrade-options beforehand.

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There´s no way to make everyone happy. If that move gets put in the next person comes along and is concerned about the cost of the claw. As far as I know, Thorstein trys to keep the costs of the build as low as possible for everyone to play, hence Forbidden Jewels or an Onslaught-Implicit Circle of nostalgia are not part of the PoB, yet I use them.
At some point u gotta take responsibility to make your own changes and improvements to the build if you wanna push it even further and personally I think it is a bit lazy to ask for EVERYTHING to be laid out perfectly. Also, if you come here and ask the people that pushed further we would have been happy to help and adress certain upgrade-options beforehand.

Firstly I didn't ask for the Aisling info, you told. I merely said maybe it should be in the guide after getting this information.

Secondly an Aisling slam is worth about 2divine. The onslaught on hit ring, which I have, cost me about 15 divines and it IS in the PoB(and the guide). So don't claim the Aisling slam is kept out in the interests of keeping the build cheap.

I didn't come here to argue, I came here to say thank you. Please don't feel the need to be aggro towards someone for paying you a compliment and offering some input about how the guide you helped develop, could be improved.

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Macca84 wrote:

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There´s no way to make everyone happy. If that move gets put in the next person comes along and is concerned about the cost of the claw. As far as I know, Thorstein trys to keep the costs of the build as low as possible for everyone to play, hence Forbidden Jewels or an Onslaught-Implicit Circle of nostalgia are not part of the PoB, yet I use them.
At some point u gotta take responsibility to make your own changes and improvements to the build if you wanna push it even further and personally I think it is a bit lazy to ask for EVERYTHING to be laid out perfectly. Also, if you come here and ask the people that pushed further we would have been happy to help and adress certain upgrade-options beforehand.

Firstly I didn't ask for the Aisling info, you told. I merely said maybe it should be in the guide after getting this information.

Secondly an Aisling slam is worth about 2divine. The onslaught on hit ring, which I have, cost me about 15 divines and it IS in the PoB(and the guide). So don't claim the Aisling slam is kept out in the interests of keeping the build cheap.

I didn't come here to argue, I came here to say thank you. Please don't feel the need to be aggro towards someone for paying you a compliment and offering some input about how the guide you helped develop, could be improved.

Calm down boys :)
Macca ty for the input. I'm really glad you had great time with the build! Makes me warm and fuzzy on the inside :D

Regarding the Aisling slam on the claw, you're both right. I've maybe should have added it as luxury craft and I prob will.
On the other hand as Vennto said we try to keep things strait forward and deterministic as much as possible.

Aisling slam is rng craft which is done on basically finished item and can be pretty frustrating. I tried it and it removed added Chaos that was perfectly rolled. In the end i got "lucky" inc phys with ex slam which compensated to worst added chaos roll after the failed Aisling slam.

Best case scenario Aisling slam gives hair under 6% more damage. It's not for everyone but only for min/maxing.
There are always bits for improvement but players like yourself will find their way on their own and we can always exchange ideas here. :)

I played a version of pestilent strike using Mahuxotl's and Tempered by War lethal pride jewel. Only have to gear for fire/chaos, and achieved elemental avoidance using Stormshroud. I use Ghost Dance to proc Everlasting Sacrifice

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DaRabidJackal wrote:

I played a version of pestilent strike using Mahuxotl's and Tempered by War lethal pride jewel. Only have to gear for fire/chaos, and achieved elemental avoidance using Stormshroud. I use Ghost Dance to proc Everlasting Sacrifice

maybe i messed up the config but those numbers dont really look good considering how good/expensive your gear is: https://pobb.in/BHxpXFBsip33

the main reason i think is you arent using temp chains, its currently too strong to skip with psn builds.
you could also use molten shell since you ve got armor, also do you really need a mana flask? i would change that for a silver flask (onslaught on flask got changed to a buff so it benefits from flask effect), your attack rate is really low.
is there also a reason you pick master surgeon over nature's reprisal?

I was blasting 8-mod maps, some things I was messing around depending on the mod. Was trying out flagellant flasks w/ master surgeon, you are right I need to change that back. I will try molten shell and see how it feels. Temp chains I will try to squeeze in, would need to retool some things. Attack rate is carried a bit by ancestral protector. I did not have equipped, I will swap in with second wind support. If I get more currency maybe I will try for a different helm, and look for onslaught nostalgia ring that I could fit. https://pobb.in/j99KVHnWvhba

Hi! Great build, I love it! Fantastic job!

I am struggling to get a better a claw - there's just no available ones for sale.


Does anyone have a claw similar to the one in the guide for sale? DM me

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