Isn't respeccing way too cheap right now?

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Gimatria#7361 wrote:

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khuzvhan#0406 wrote:

it's around perfect right now. the real gold dump is gambling NPC. specially for SSF players. if you think you have too much gold you're just not gambling

I pumped about 2 million in gambling and it got me literally zero sellable items.

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Axterix13#5693 wrote:

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Kashou#2868 wrote:

Practically free respecs makes the game feel like shit. It makes build permanence non-existent and makes people play the game differently, it makes them level differently, it makes people use certain skills less at certain phases of the game, and it makes your choices feel irrelevant.

Which is good feedback to have. If everyone is respecing into something early, it might be too powerful or other things too weak. And if everyone is spec'ing into something else late, then that particular thing might be game warping.

Overall, your typical player isn't going to min/max that way, though. It's more the power gamer types, the zoomer to bes, that will. And, quite frankly, that type will respec regardless, if it is the min/max thing to do.

Especially since, once you have one high level character, you have that level of income, and that new character respec'ing while leveling is going to have respec costs based on their level of income, which will be low. But since gold is account-wide...

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Gimatria#7361 wrote:

I'm probably not going to make myself popular with this post, but I feel that respeccing is way too cheap.

I'm lvl 85 right now, and I could respec my entire character 10 times over and still have some gold left. I like semi-permanent choices (that's why I'm against changing ascendancy), it forces me to think about those choices.

Personally I like the system in Grim Dawn. Every time you respec it gets more expensive. So the first one might be 1000 gold, but the 100th time you respec it will cost you 100.000 gold. This should give you enough flexibility to experiment and make mistakes, but it will probably cost too much to respec your entire character.

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Bacon_Overlord#1834 wrote:

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Gimatria#7361 wrote:

I'm probably not going to make myself popular with this post, but I feel that respeccing is way too cheap.

I'm lvl 85 right now, and I could respec my entire character 10 times over and still have some gold left. I like semi-permanent choices (that's why I'm against changing ascendancy), it forces me to think about those choices.

Personally I like the system in Grim Dawn. Every time you respec it gets more expensive. So the first one might be 1000 gold, but the 100th time you respec it will cost you 100.000 gold. This should give you enough flexibility to experiment and make mistakes, but it will probably cost too much to respec your entire character.

Should be free, actually.

Gating your ability to change your build in a PVE game is pointless. D4 has gone to an armory with zero cost for respecs. If Bliz of all developers can figure that out then GGG has no excuse.

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Bacon_Overlord#1834 wrote:

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Gimatria#7361 wrote:

I'm probably not going to make myself popular with this post, but I feel that respeccing is way too cheap.

I'm lvl 85 right now, and I could respec my entire character 10 times over and still have some gold left. I like semi-permanent choices (that's why I'm against changing ascendancy), it forces me to think about those choices.

Personally I like the system in Grim Dawn. Every time you respec it gets more expensive. So the first one might be 1000 gold, but the 100th time you respec it will cost you 100.000 gold. This should give you enough flexibility to experiment and make mistakes, but it will probably cost too much to respec your entire character.

Should be free, actually.

Gating your ability to change your build in a PVE game is pointless. D4 has gone to an armory with zero cost for respecs. If Bliz of all developers can figure that out then GGG has no excuse.

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Kashou#2868 wrote:

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Bacon_Overlord#1834 wrote:

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Gimatria#7361 wrote:

I'm probably not going to make myself popular with this post, but I feel that respeccing is way too cheap.

I'm lvl 85 right now, and I could respec my entire character 10 times over and still have some gold left. I like semi-permanent choices (that's why I'm against changing ascendancy), it forces me to think about those choices.

Personally I like the system in Grim Dawn. Every time you respec it gets more expensive. So the first one might be 1000 gold, but the 100th time you respec it will cost you 100.000 gold. This should give you enough flexibility to experiment and make mistakes, but it will probably cost too much to respec your entire character.

Should be free, actually.

Gating your ability to change your build in a PVE game is pointless. D4 has gone to an armory with zero cost for respecs. If Bliz of all developers can figure that out then GGG has no excuse.

Yeah but D4 sucks so

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Gimatria#7361 wrote:

If PoE has free respec I will instantly stop playing.

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Gimatria#7361 wrote:

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Bacon_Overlord#1834 wrote:

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Gimatria#7361 wrote:

I'm probably not going to make myself popular with this post, but I feel that respeccing is way too cheap.

I'm lvl 85 right now, and I could respec my entire character 10 times over and still have some gold left. I like semi-permanent choices (that's why I'm against changing ascendancy), it forces me to think about those choices.

Personally I like the system in Grim Dawn. Every time you respec it gets more expensive. So the first one might be 1000 gold, but the 100th time you respec it will cost you 100.000 gold. This should give you enough flexibility to experiment and make mistakes, but it will probably cost too much to respec your entire character.

Should be free, actually.

Gating your ability to change your build in a PVE game is pointless. D4 has gone to an armory with zero cost for respecs. If Bliz of all developers can figure that out then GGG has no excuse.

And that's the reason I don't like D4 (or D3). Making any build feels completely useless with free respec. If PoE has free respec I will instantly stop playing.