1200 fusings, no 6 link

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UnderOmerta wrote:

The problem is that it's not "difficult" now. It's arbitrary. For everyone who's worked hard to accumulate over a thousand fusings without a 6l, there's some lucky twit that got it within 30. That's not being hard, that's being unfair.

I made that point much earlier in the thread, other games use a similar method(aion and tera)
I don't mind farming but it rankles me that given my luck in games that i would normally be at the 1000+ fusings end of the scale.
It's not that i even need a 6 linked but once you hit the end game there isn't really much to do but try better your gear.
Chris said it before(jokingly) if we would prefer an item that guaranteed it if it cost 1500 fusings.
They should just make fusings a fragment/shard with no real use outside buying 3 new orbs that can only be found in the vendors(non drop or very very rare drop off merciless bosses/map bosses)
Something like 500 fusing for an orb to 4L, 1000 for 5L and 1500 for 6L or higher.

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lagwin1980 wrote:

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UnderOmerta wrote:

The problem is that it's not "difficult" now. It's arbitrary. For everyone who's worked hard to accumulate over a thousand fusings without a 6l, there's some lucky twit that got it within 30. That's not being hard, that's being unfair.

I made that point much earlier in the thread, other games use a similar method(aion and tera)
I don't mind farming but it rankles me that given my luck in games that i would normally be at the 1000+ fusings end of the scale.
It's not that i even need a 6 linked but once you hit the end game there isn't really much to do but try better your gear.
Chris said it before(jokingly) if we would prefer an item that guaranteed it if it cost 1500 fusings.
They should just make fusings a fragment/shard with no real use outside buying 3 new orbs that can only be found in the vendors(non drop or very very rare drop off merciless bosses/map bosses)
Something like 500 fusing for an orb to 4L, 1000 for 5L and 1500 for 6L or higher.

4l and 5l should be drastically lowered, because 4l is supposed to be the staple of the game. But yes, I think an incremental system where fusings actually combine to do something of near guaranteed value is good. It makes no sense to burn 2000 fusings on a 6s item and have the last fusing remove all links, and then be in no better position than you were 2000 fusings ago. In fact, you're in a far, far worse position because you spent 2000 fusings. That's an unfair and broken system. Meanwhile, someone who has good fortune got their 6l in 20 fusings and is running around whacking enemies and being near invincible. Where is the fairness in that? There's no difficulty in right clicking your stack of fusings and left clicking your item. There's only repetition and praying to the RNG gods.

If the devs insist on using something RNG-based, then add a hidden entropy value (kind of like ilvl) for socketed items. If your fusings failed to produce the max number of links, it raises the entropy value which then contributes to raising the odds of attaining the max number of links on the item. That way, it's still possible for the lucky bastards to get their 6l on the first few fusings, but people who spent 2000 with no luck are not about to ragequit the game.

Agree with the person above.

Let's say for arguments sake, Fusing success rate is 0.01%

Why not have each fusing spent on that item increase it's success rate by 0.005%?

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AboveAverage wrote:

Agree with the person above.

Let's say for arguments sake, Fusing success rate is 0.01%

Why not have each fusing spent on that item increase it's success rate by 0.005%?

2 possible reasons:

1. Hard for GGG to program such a "memory"
2. They like massive gambling.
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Like many have mentioned throughout the thread: "hard work" isn't the issue, the insane randomness is the issue in a system where there is only two outcomes: failure or success.

The mod system is far better since it has multiple favorable outcomes and multiple acceptable outcomes.

Fusing stuff can be painful:

Had a 5L chest given by a mate (thanks VOkal), then wanted to alch it.
Closed my eyes and prayed to RNGesus... first try, item wasn't changed..? Aha, ok, clicked the alch again... closed my eyes again and prayed.. click => It rolled very decent stats!!! OMG

Linked in chat and was looking forward to using it (running 1 more aura on Mana) as my mates told me: "It broke?"

I looked shocked at chest and there: ... no 5L anymore. Must have used a fuse on it, which were stashed right beside the alchs...

and because I prayed, I didn't notice I had clicked the $%%§$%§" tiny FUSE icon instead the right one.


yeah, I'm pissed a little. tried with 20 fuses to 5L again in vain of course. but GONE... (max links should be locked forever)

the guys above, welcome to Las Vegas :)

Spent 200 Fusings to re-5L-Link a chest Piece today I accidentally f.... Up yesterday.
U think I succeeded? Really GGG: 200 fusings and no 5L?
Must it be that rare? 5L is mandatory for endgame... U_U

Spent abt 60 fuse to 4 link a headgear, not much spent but doing only self found and solo casual playing, is a lot to me, very tension and frustrated, but excited nevertheless, and when you got all 4 linked up before you run out of fuse? What a relief, then you wear the new headgear, and goes, "that wasnt even a big upgrade to my char" lol

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Nexana wrote:

Spent 200 Fusings to re-5L-Link a chest Piece today I accidentally f.... Up yesterday.
U think I succeeded? Really GGG: 200 fusings and no 5L?
Must it be that rare? 5L is mandatory for endgame... U_U

I have done all maps in the game with a 4L just fine, so no, 5L isnt mandatory in any way

i got 5 link in 1st fuse once, and on another in 10 fuse, on another in 70 fuse on another 60 fuse. I never spent more than 90 fuse to get 6 link.