PvP Discussion - PVP Supporter Pack - Chris responded 7/10 & 7/11 & 7/12 - Forum

" dalb3 wrote: New skills not going through the same pvp damage reduction formulas as others is arguably the biggest problem with PVP at the moment (Vortex for example), 2nd only to AoE overlap FW/Wall shotgunning etc... but I know you'll just defend that. I'm not saying PVP is going to be perfect or balanced, that's not what we're discussing. The next step is T values being addressed. GGG is saying they are going to do this on their own like everyone wanted without the need of a supporter pack. That is great news. You will believe it when you see it re: T values? How about a friendly wager? I bet you they will address T values on their own. You bet me they will not. Cool? Edit: not you ice lol timeline of bet haha, if this never happen, until when the best is lost haha. :P Like we wait 1 month/6month/1year before bet is lost/win. Also bump, I want to buy supporter pack Poe Pvp experience https://youtu.be/Z6eg3aB_V1g?t=302 Last edited by Head_Less#6633 on Jul 11, 2016, 10:46:28 AM	Posted by Head_Less#6633 on Jul 11, 2016, 10:46:19 AM Quote this Post
Haha I want to buy one too! ;) Well insinuating someone will never do something means they will not accomplish said task no matter the timeline. I'm confident this WILL happen since Chris asked me to not share some things with the community but very clearly told me to share the T value portion. If they weren't going to accomplish this, then one could surmise he would ask me to not share everything. Will it happen in 2.4? Maybe... but also maybe not just like was said. Ice: Not to discredit anyone's previous attempts, as I'm sure everything that could've been done at the time was done, but what we're doing in this thread is a bit different than pm'ing a staff member. Yes I'm speaking with Chris, but we're bringing more to the table with this thread than before. Revenue, a plan of attack, some more time, and most importantly numbers are the things that might be on our side now. And I really do value your opinion because I'm not afraid to admit you are smarter at this game than I, but we have to do something besides bicker, uninstall, reinstall, rinse, and repeat. 🎆🎆 www.youtube.com/c/Ahfack 🎆🎆 NEW #1 LLRF Helm -> 30% MORE\|25CON\|25BURN\|-12fire\|352es 🎆🎆 #1 Phys/Impale Leg 70% Multi Amulet + #1 Phys Rings! 🎆🎆 ^^Free 7L Fortify Cyclone! 🎆🎆 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/534134 Last edited by Ahfack#1969 on Jul 11, 2016, 11:13:51 AM	Posted by Ahfack#1969 on Jul 11, 2016, 11:04:22 AM Quote this Post
Wait, maybe we should encourage mtxs, back attachment battle standards sound awesome. "That's nice cupcake" ~ Rlowe, 1984 - RIP in pieces, least we 4get """Everyone is an asshole and I'm awesome" ~ Mygalomorphae, 2016" ~ philophil, 2016" ~ Mygalomorphae, 2016 "Fuck." ~ Rlowe, 2017 "...post-ironic thread..." ~ Rlowe, 2017	Posted by Alpha_Dragon#6643 on Jul 11, 2016, 6:23:37 PM Quote this Post
Yeah I really need a back attachment besides those godawful tentacle wings I bought drunk during rampage when they were half price. fml :) But yeah, we are trying to get this baby to walk, he's nowhere near ready to run yet. 🎆🎆 www.youtube.com/c/Ahfack 🎆🎆 NEW #1 LLRF Helm -> 30% MORE\|25CON\|25BURN\|-12fire\|352es 🎆🎆 #1 Phys/Impale Leg 70% Multi Amulet + #1 Phys Rings! 🎆🎆 ^^Free 7L Fortify Cyclone! 🎆🎆 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/534134 Last edited by Ahfack#1969 on Jul 11, 2016, 7:22:59 PM	Posted by Ahfack#1969 on Jul 11, 2016, 7:22:32 PM Quote this Post
Then give the baby some sort of performance-enhancing drugs or some kind of amphetamine! GOTTA GET OUR PACKS! Also, those of you who are skeptical of PvP being improved, I got my Decree of Winter back, so may my good fortune bless you all! Lavender or Leave. PvPresident, 2016 // You'd better run. “EA is fine” -relith	Posted by I_am_Upset#2098 on Jul 11, 2016, 8:02:00 PM Quote this Post
Why don't you ask him why PvP plays out as follows... -Sit in queue for upwards of 30minutes -Find your opponent is just some afk build shithead with 18k ES and the FoTm no effort required afk skill i.e Vortex this month, Firestorm others, Tempest a few before that etc.. -Sit there for 90seconds at a time, drawing rounds til there aren't any left and you both go on your way. -Go back to town/hideout/pvming/log off and say to yourself, wow...that was some fucken exilerating shit right there. So much afk, so much skill, so much awesomeness!!! woooooooooooooooooooo fuck ya can't wait to do it again woooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! Repeat...infinitely GGG, the ADA of gaming....huuuur i gotz mai skilz. IGN: MullaXul	Posted by MullaXul#2277 on Jul 11, 2016, 11:51:38 PM Quote this Post
" MullaXul wrote: Why don't you ask him why PvP plays out as follows... -Sit in queue for upwards of 30minutes -Find your opponent is just some afk build shithead with 18k ES and the FoTm no effort required afk skill i.e Vortex this month, Firestorm others, Tempest a few before that etc.. -Sit there for 90seconds at a time, drawing rounds til there aren't any left and you both go on your way. -Go back to town/hideout/pvming/log off and say to yourself, wow...that was some fucken exilerating shit right there. So much afk, so much skill, so much awesomeness!!! woooooooooooooooooooo fuck ya can't wait to do it again woooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! Repeat...infinitely I'd never thought I'd see this day, But I'm Team Mulla. [Gear & Club] ¯\(°_°)/¯ #1 Professional Afk Club /2133058 [Hideout] New Oriath /2505008 [Pvp Trophy] PVP #1 EU & US EA /1591888 \| \| BM EA /1431163 [Dead] PSC La /1682118, Build BM PA /1296491, BM IG LL ST /1121092, Shop /874905 "God's in his Heaven, All's right with the world!" IGN: Libritannia	Posted by 1Tokimeki2003#6663 on Jul 12, 2016, 1:47:00 AM Quote this Post
b-b-but then Dismantle will be relevant again! Kinda true what Mulla's saying, but it's better than being 1-shot from offscreen constantly. Yet, I did like killing MorgantheBard with 0 effort (dual curse, frostbomb, 3-link Vortex). Lavender or Leave. PvPresident, 2016 // You'd better run. “EA is fine” -relith	Posted by I_am_Upset#2098 on Jul 12, 2016, 2:56:21 AM Quote this Post
" 1Tokimeki2003 wrote: GGG's promised much less in the past, and every time they get our hopes are up, they've inevitability failed and burnt up our hopes and dreams. It's a step in the right direction, yes, but I'll lay my expectations low. The reply in itself seems VErrryy situational, rather it's presumptuously optimistic, do you really believe in "true game balance" that everything is fair and square and balanced? Nobody on here will be happy regardless of either things. But rather, it's just grim reminder of reality, I guess. Without constant updates, and value changes, even if they'd balance everything perfectly this time around, and not do anything else in the future, the meta will become stale, and whatever has a higher advantage, will become the next QQ thing, as per usual. This is exactly why I was suggesting funding for a pvp server of its own. And it doesnt have to be complex. It could be as simple as the extension of sarn arena like I have previously posted. The point of the PvP supporter packs is to separate all the bitchy PvE complainers about GGG putting any time into developing PvP instead of PvE. My email to chris took all my consideration from everything I have done pvp related in this game to come up with one solution that addresses everything and was meant to be simple. We already know they have many servers to run races on. We have seen them do PvP events in sarn arena. Sarn arena extensions and a safe zone really couldnt be that hard imo. Balance is one of the most argued topics...which is a huge reason pvp skills and balancing should be separate from pve balance. For PvP to be really balanced everyone should have access to all the gear, no legacy or RMT. Honestly I put all the effort I could into my email Spoiler Chris I dream of a way to separate the toxic hostility of PvE Players speaking out against GGG developing PvP instead of PvE features. We need to rebirth PvP in a new light. free of this stigma. I think Kickstarter could be a huge solution to this problem. Players will understand that the development costs were funded by the mass of players that share the dream of a PvP Town and League. The matchmaking system has been improving and improving and seems to be a perfect match for a separate PvP instance/server/league. I think the FFA arena in Act 3 would be perfect. Extend the four gates slightly into a safe area. The safe area has merchants that vend the base items for crafting at the benches nearby, as well as Leo who hosts the matchmaking. All crafting costs are free, as is the gem merchant. All the item affixes ranges are normalized. Incorporate corruptions and other features as you see fit. When joining the league you create a new character with a designated max level that spawns into this isolated town/server. My hope is that creating a PvP Town in a separate league will change peoples outlook on PvP especially when funded through a system that's not detracting from PvE. The endless replay-ability and competitive drive this would add to the game would be astounding. Right now PvP is pretty segregated not only by leagues, but as well as bankrolls. The entry level keeps rising as legacy affixes and unique items are created. The latest problem has been hybrid physical damage increase % has been reduced from the original value of Mercenary 's 54% to 44%. Not such a big deal but it impacts newer players as well as some veterans with this lingering feeling of inequality. The PvP Town would change this entirely. PoE is an amazing engine with amazing art. Creating a competitive drive within this system/game would be the next level dream. No leagues separating the PvP player base, no need to trade, no need to grind for hours to compete, and balancing completely independent of PvE. The funding system you decide to use could have different tiers of donation and support granting PvP Skins or Armor Sets. Add a PvP achievement system and maybe a back attachment ranking system. It sounds like a ton of work. I would no life on that system no complaints for the rest of my life, being the happiest person alive lol. Sorry for the long read, I have alot more to add but its already too long. Let me know your opinions! Shameless promotion - original thread for pvp town - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1204715/page/1 I Stream PvP Twitch.tv/GrindcoreTHRALL THE STORY OF MY Descent into the Abysmal Afterlife( HC to SC, too Stronk!) http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/346754 PK massacre, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldz09uBZ-ug	Posted by GrindcoreTHRALL#3263 on Jul 12, 2016, 3:30:12 AM Quote this Post
Fuck, I'm on my phone and had a big response typed and just lost it because I had mulla quoted on another browser window so it saved the mulla quote instead of my response to you. Not typing it all again FFFFFFF I love it man, but I don't think that'll happen without us paying for another senior dev, and as they would argue senior devs don't grow on trees et and they would never be able to give us a concrete completion date which would be unfair to the supporters who most likely wouldn't get points because of the amount of work associated 🎆🎆 www.youtube.com/c/Ahfack 🎆🎆 NEW #1 LLRF Helm -> 30% MORE\|25CON\|25BURN\|-12fire\|352es 🎆🎆 #1 Phys/Impale Leg 70% Multi Amulet + #1 Phys Rings! 🎆🎆 ^^Free 7L Fortify Cyclone! 🎆🎆 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/534134 Last edited by Ahfack#1969 on Jul 12, 2016, 6:00:57 AM	Posted by Ahfack#1969 on Jul 12, 2016, 6:00:03 AM Quote this Post