hey could someone help me with a deadeye/raider tree for this build? Going crit as well, im just wondering if I will have to invest more heavily into crit on the tree as either of those, and will damage be that much lower? I dont plan to do guardians or shaper, just want to map fast.
I was thinking of going opus as a weapon, since reach is quite expensive.
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Haven't read through so not sure if anyone else has done this or posted this but... alas I present
Raider of the Forest:
Take Avatar of the Slaughter and Avatar of the Chase to do meni dmg. (Avatar of the veil for more? mitigation and invisible nonsense)
Copied Build/Gear/Tree with slight variations as my league starter:
Got my helm this morning. Just need to upgrade jewelry and jewels. Maybe get some 21 gems in there. Also leveling Vorici to 8 wouldnt hurt so I can recolour the gloves 3g 1b and use Frenzy instead of Orb of Storms. Frenzy skill isn't really necessary on raider and one of the main reasons I wanted to try this but it works well in emergencies and with PCOC linked for addition of power charges. Orb of storms is nice in breaches and uber though to passively gain charges while running around.
Flasks currently setup for uber lab. quicksilver of heat and diamond of staunching/grounding instead of basalt for general mapping. At 6,100 hp, 82 movespeed with no flask (183 with frenzies + flasks), 22k eva. 30k barrage with frenzies and permaonslaught, 47k LA. Dmg has been great from lioneyes to opus to reach and dual 5l's to 6l+5l. You really don't need 6l for lightning arrow and it can be quite nice to have blood rage on your bow to weapon swap it off quickly in say uberlab or less/no regen maps or vulnerability curse etc.
Quite satisfied with how it's turned out. It's probably the best build I have done so far. Thanks!
My tooltip goes from 10.3k to 11.1k by swapping a random Devoto's with a +40% Barrage Devoto's. 6L, in hideout (no charges), buffed and with Golem up. That's a ~7% increase on the tooltip.
Assuming my tooltip would be the same 10.3k if I had a +2 proj helm (and it should be, right?), and I was only going from 9 arrows (92.7k DPS) to 11 arrows (113.3k DPS), the increase would end up being ~22%.
The difference in price, though, is 1500% ;D
If you re-read my post, you'll notice I never said anything about the price-difference being worth it for +2. :p Definitely more cost-effective for the damage enchant. I ran Essence league with the 40% damage enchantment and was perfectly fine with that.
Yeah, that wasn't an argument
I was fortifying your point, not disputing it
And just running your comparison method with my stats (as I just got myself a +40% Damage enchant)
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My tooltip goes from 10.3k to 11.1k by swapping a random Devoto's with a +40% Barrage Devoto's. 6L, in hideout (no charges), buffed and with Golem up. That's a ~7% increase on the tooltip.
Assuming my tooltip would be the same 10.3k if I had a +2 proj helm (and it should be, right?), and I was only going from 9 arrows (92.7k DPS) to 11 arrows (113.3k DPS), the increase would end up being ~22%.
The difference in price, though, is 1500% ;D
If you re-read my post, you'll notice I never said anything about the price-difference being worth it for +2. :p Definitely more cost-effective for the damage enchant. I ran Essence league with the 40% damage enchantment and was perfectly fine with that.
Yeah, that wasn't an argument
I was fortifying your point, not disputing it
And just running your comparison method with my stats (as I just got myself a +40% Damage enchant)
I know you weren't disputing it. I was just joking about the point my post made was that statistically +2 arrows is much more powerful and didn't take cost into account.
Thanks for running the math on the 40%. I knew it was somewhere in the single digits, but didn't have access to the game to run a check.
Question: How do you guys handle Chayula breach?
It's really hard to get high chaos resistance with this build, I was thinking about getting it on jewels or run atziri flask.
I've made a CI version of this same build just to test (lol) - it sucked (8.5k es + vaal pact + ghost reaver), easy to get stunned and blood rage destroys CI so bad.
@essencevox I'd say if you are fine with Opus in terms of trash clear speed (2 arrows vs 4 of Reach) then get 6 link first. Though I see you linked LMP so you are probably not fine :) Then get Reach first I suppose, then 6 link. Then maybe %chaos accessories, then +1 arrow drillneck, then dying sun.
This is only my second 'real' char so relatively inexperienced and I could use advice specifically around where I'd get the most bang for my buck on gear upgrades.
I'm running maps T10-T8 without major issue, a death here and there. Bosses die quickly if I keep my charges up. Breaches are sketchy if no terrain to control mob flow. Ive completed Merc Lab but think Uber would be very tough. In general I feel my dps is very good, but I have to really work to stay alive and can splat unexpectedly.
I think I get the gist of the build from the OP's guide and Cadmium's recent post. Below is how I'd self-analyze. I would appreciate feedback whether my self assessment is correct. Also on where to focus first based on my budget -- I have 50c + 1ex
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-- My rings, amulet and belt need to be replaced with an eye toward life rolls and chaos dmg. I've delayed touching these because I feel as though I'll need to replace them all at once to juggle resistances. This probably needs to be my first priority even though it may consume most of my budget.
-- I can afford a Death's Opus (but a 5L would wipe me out), but with my damage feeling good and the relative cost I think this is lower priority
-- I'm overly reliant on life flasks but probably need to boost my survivability before I start swapping these outs
-- Jewels can use an overhaul with life focus. Likely the easiest and cheapest improvement
-- Current enchants are not helpful but seems not worth pursuing until I've got my end-game pieces and can run Uber
-- Devoto's is within my budget but current helm is ok so don't think I'll get that much upside here relative to other areas.
-- QotF 6L is too expensive. Should I go for a rare 6L as intermediate step?
-- I need to add quality to my gems. Pricey and think higher priorities elsewhere
You're definitely on the right track about most of the thoughts. 1ex plus 50c comes to about 120c total to work with.
A 5L Opus is only around 30-40c on trade right now. I would put that first. Glare is fine and all, but Opus is a massive damage boost. Don't underestimate how much facerolling content will keep you alive simply by not letting anything else be alive long enough to attack you. Opus is pretty much an end-game bow for this build. I wouldn't hesitate to get a 5L. It's cheap enough to get an still have budget for other upgrades.
The jewels absolutely need an overhaul. I didn't check the passive tree, but Pierce gem plus the pierce nodes on the passive tree will give you 100% crit chance. Poacher's aim isn't necessary. Even something as simple as a rare with projectile damage + life and not worrying about 3rd affix would be a big improvement. That'd only run 2-4 per jewel, and easily upgraded later on. You can usually get a solid 3-damage affix jewel with no life inexpensively as well.
Don't underestimate Devoto's either. The big dex roll adds evasion and accuracy. The 20% movespeed is fantastic. Chaos res never hurts, and attack speed is naturally great for the build. Again, they're cheap enough now that it should easily fit into the budget.
A rare 6L would be a solid upgrade, but don't discount a 5L QotF either. This build doesn't really need 6 links until you're doing real end-game content like Guardians/Shaper/etc. The movespeed, resists, and high evasion make QotF a really strong armor, especially for this build. Again, a 5L of this armor isn't overly expensive.
I wouldn't worry about the enchants or gem levels right now. Quality is important, but the damage boost isn't major. However, a cheap level 20 added chaos (~5c) is probably worth it, since the flat damage scales up a lot per level.
A big benefit to switching to QotF and Devoto's now means you can better estimate the needs of your other equipment. No worries about losing specific resistances from the chest/helm that need to be made up elsewhere.
Looking at trade right now, average cost would put Opus at about 35c, 5L QotF at about 25c. That's 60c for armor and chest, leaving you 60c for other pieces. Devoto's is under 10c, which would leave you 50c. Say 10c for 4 new jewels drops you to 40c. About 5c L20 added chaos damage drops to 35c. 35c might be a stretch to replace all 4 jewelry slots, but it's manageable.
Your belt just needs life rolls/resistances. Look for leather/heavy belts to maximize the life roll. Either way, you can easily find a belt with 90+ life and +60 to resistances for 1 chaos or less. Rings can also be had quite cheaply. All you're looking for is Life and resistances, maybe int to help with requirements, and preferably an open prefix to craft flat chaos eventually. Again you can pretty easily find 90+ life and 60+ total resists for 1-5 chaos each. Even adding int can be kept under 10c.
Amulet is a good source for DPS. I would search for life/crit multi and try to add in some resists if possible. Again, an open prefix for flat chaos crafting is good if the amulet is worth crafting on. If you dedicate about 10c to rings/belt and 25c to your amulet, you should do well enough.
You should have plenty of currency to really push your build towards the end-game. You can also save some on the bow/armor if you have enough jewellers/fusings to attempt self-5-linking.
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Many thanks for the very detailed feedback!! I like the offense is the best defense concept -- going to grab that bow!! :)
I have some questions and maybe some advice, first of to the exile above me ^
at 3300 life it's not so much you getting one shot, it's more about you being hit when you shouldn't have, and misunderstand me correctly, I'm not calling you a bad player, just that you had shit luck.
My advice is be more mobile, use decoy totem and move around and don't stand still too much, observe when he uses his backslash/major one shot ability.
Onwards to my question that I would love to get some feedback from anyone on, I had a major strike of the ol' RNG just now and managed to 6L my belly of the beast.
So my dilemma is, I could sell that, and fund my reach bow, and let's be honest, at best I could manage to 5L that along with my queen of the forest.
Or I could keep my one 6L, and get a 5L Death's Opus whilst I farm for the reach.
I realize of course I'll lose a ton of evasion doing belly instead of queen, but with my friend (doing some kind of support whatshacallit, I'll be somewhat tanky regardless.
Other than that, oh wait while I'm here I might as well ask you, I got a ring drop earlier
it's missing life but it has:
33 WED
8-16 cold
1-23 Lightning
39 fire res and 41 cold res, usable to start with?
Much appreciated, thank you for this guide it's really well made and I apologize for the stupid questions, I've played this game for abit but every so often I find myself at a lack of answers and a hell of alot of questions.
