General Discussion - EXALTED ORB Price Shenanigans [Delirium] 127:1 What is even going on? - Forum

" krenderke wrote: " SunL4D2 wrote: " arknath wrote: Crafting is a huuuuuge deal in Betrayal. Expect the exalt to go closer to 200. Supply is def lower than demand I am really amazed how people always try to explain ex:chaos ratio with "chaos recipe", "zana mods", "easy to farm chaos" - you name it and yet ratio only changes after ban waves. I wonder why... Bots are most important factor. Other factors are pretty much irrelevant. Time to get it already. So if it takes 8 pure ex for me to craft a 440 pDps foil + hits can't be evaded mod, but would otherwise just sit on 8 pures, then does that mean bots are responsible for this? I'm not saying they aren't raising the price but let's be honest there are a ton of very good crafts costing pure exalts which are well worth the price. Nice strawman. It's nothing compared to the effect bots have. Just stop.	Posted by SunL4D2#6224 on Dec 26, 2018, 4:19:34 PM Quote this Post
it isn't exactly a strawman. there is essentially zero evidence that exalts are priced high in chaos purely because of bots. that is legit ridiculous to think. when you consider that exalts are rare, the primary currency for high ticket items and now have much more use in crafting coupled with the fact that chaos fall of the fucking trees now-a-days, its easy to see why exalts go for high chaos price. im not saying bots don't have any effect at all, but for them to be the sole effect, or as much as people are theorizing is completely ridiculous to me	Posted by xMustard#3403 on Dec 26, 2018, 4:22:47 PM Quote this Post
" xMustard wrote: it isn't exactly a strawman. there is essentially zero evidence that exalts are priced high in chaos purely because of bots. that is legit ridiculous to think. when you consider that exalts are rare, the primary currency for high ticket items and now have much more use in crafting coupled with the fact that chaos fall of the fucking trees now-a-days, its easy to see why exalts go for high chaos price. im not saying bots don't have any effect at all, but for them to be the sole effect, or as much as people are theorizing is completely ridiculous to me rolls eyes Incursion ban wave rolls eyes rolls eyes third time for the good measure You would be right if you said that there is essentially zero evidence for anything other than bots having any effect on exalt:chaos ratio though. Last edited by SunL4D2#6224 on Dec 26, 2018, 4:25:21 PM	Posted by SunL4D2#6224 on Dec 26, 2018, 4:23:59 PM Quote this Post
Glad i quit this shit league and patch before even trying it out. It seems my spider senses worked yet again. GGG lost the touch with the economy, loot, trading, monster balance and everything in general. "In this game you're just a cow being milked, not a human being entertained" - Kiss_Me_Quick Last edited by IIPheXII#5639 on Dec 26, 2018, 4:26:04 PM	Posted by IIPheXII#5639 on Dec 26, 2018, 4:24:34 PM Quote this Post
Bots have a huge impact but clearly incursion and delve have made it worse. The relative impact is unknown but I for one am waiting for a ban wave. IGN: Arlianth Check out my LA build: 1782214	Posted by Nephalim#2731 on Dec 26, 2018, 4:24:56 PM Quote this Post
" IIPheXII wrote: Glad i quit this shit league and patch before even trying it out. It seems my spider senses worked yet again. GGG lost the touch with the economy, loot, trading, monster balance and everything in general. Betrayal is amazing. Miss a lot by skipping it for such silly reason. Last edited by SunL4D2#6224 on Dec 26, 2018, 4:26:44 PM	Posted by SunL4D2#6224 on Dec 26, 2018, 4:26:09 PM Quote this Post
" SunL4D2 wrote: Incursion ban wave and that is literally all the evidence you have. a ban wave 2 and a half leagues ago. lol what % of actives players do you believe are bots? Last edited by xMustard#3403 on Dec 26, 2018, 4:27:29 PM	Posted by xMustard#3403 on Dec 26, 2018, 4:27:03 PM Quote this Post
If it's so amazing why did i see on twitch some of the main streamers skipping the league mechanic completely with that lab trick for the first 2 weeks? As said, lame overall. "In this game you're just a cow being milked, not a human being entertained" - Kiss_Me_Quick	Posted by IIPheXII#5639 on Dec 26, 2018, 4:28:08 PM Quote this Post
If 1ex goes 200c it means one elder/shaper accessory (these items are the rarest) cost at least 4c each (0.2ex for a set = 40c, 10 items in a set).	Posted by rus9384#0643 on Dec 26, 2018, 5:19:17 PM Quote this Post
" SunL4D2 wrote: " arknath wrote: Crafting is a huuuuuge deal in Betrayal. Expect the exalt to go closer to 200. Supply is def lower than demand I am really amazed how people always try to explain ex:chaos ratio with "chaos recipe", "zana mods", "easy to farm chaos" - you name it and yet ratio only changes after ban waves. I wonder why... Bots are most important factor. Other factors are pretty much irrelevant. Time to get it already. Other factors are relatively irrelevant but still maybe as much as 20%. The point is that these "other" factors are more long lasting and set the general pattern of currency evaluation like regals becoming less valuable than chaos. Bots probably define the spikes and valleys of exalted orb prices by far, I'd guess. Regarding anyone else agreeing with my guess or not? I don't care. I don't see why I should care? Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!	Posted by Turtledove#4014 on Dec 26, 2018, 5:28:27 PM Quote this Post