EXALTED ORB Price Shenanigans [Delirium] 127:1 What is even going on?

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Slaanesh69 wrote:
Finally: "Not good at ergonomics." Phaeded, no one acknowledged this, but allow me to say - lol!

Danke! All my best stuff is wasted, lol! :)

Cheers.
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Tencent: no :^)
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Ezanne wrote:
Tencent: no :^)

Our chinesse overlords left us :(
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SunL4D2 wrote:
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Ezanne wrote:
Tencent: no :^)

Our chinesse overlords left us :(


If you think Tencent is literally at Chris' desk telling him what to do, you are delusional.

All this negativity surrounding the acquisition and the fingerpointing is disappointing. The amount of ignorance on display regarding the subject even more so.
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.
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postrach_myszy wrote:

Let me explain :) There are 2 “gold mines” in Act 8 – Imperial Fields and Grain Gate. I use them quite often to get rid of some unwanted prophecies, and during such runs I always get at least 2 Rain of Chaos cards. Moreover, other currency cards can drop there, so if you are professional botter… Lets do some math. Approximately each Imperial fields run player/bot can earn at least 2,5 chaos orbs – 2 from “chaos recipe” and 0,5 from cards, other type of currency.

That’s minimum. After successful run bot just move to Grain Gate and continue farming. Let’s assume, instance “reset” time is 3 minutes. Then it is at least 20 Imperial fields and 20 Grain Gain runs in 1 hour. It is 100 chaos orb per hour/per 1 bot. Let’s assume “farmer” have 30 computers with bot on each of them, “working” 24h/day. It is 2400x30. Hello! 72000 chaos orbs each day from just one 30-computers “bot farm”. Let’s count on current prices. 72000 (chaos)/115. It is… 626 exalted orbs daily on current prices. With such amount of farmed chaos orbs “hyperinflation” is inevitable.


The only thing that makes this theory too far from reality is that Imperial fields is a level 58 area and Grain Gate is 57. You need atleast ilvl 60 items to do chaos recipe. But it still does not mean that you are totally wrong. You wrote right about how they produce so much currency. Bots spam chaos recipe but they do it on maps.
People used to think that bots farming only act 8 just because they see them in town and figured out that they farm div card. But people can't see how much bots sit in their ho and farm maps.
I dont know what they farm on softcore. But when I found some Hardcore traders on poe.trade which were selling 2-3k+ chaos every day, I checked what items they sell uning trade poe.site. Those ppl had thousands(!) of lots to sell. Then I checked what maps they sell. Most of them were selling a lot of white maps(burials, volcanos) and several ppl selling hundreds of t1 maps. It means that on HC they farm mostly low tiers or Blood Aqueducts.

Btw. Someone already made a post about one botter got 100 accs banned playing from same ip. So this 30 computers are not even limit for them. Another intresting fact: number of players in Incursion league dropped by 13k from 54k to 41k in few days after banwave. Probably it will make clearer how much bots play poe.
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Xavathos wrote:
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SunL4D2 wrote:
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Ezanne wrote:
Tencent: no :^)

Our chinesse overlords left us :(


If you think Tencent is literally at Chris' desk telling him what to do, you are delusional.

All this negativity surrounding the acquisition and the fingerpointing is disappointing. The amount of ignorance on display regarding the subject even more so.

You are right Tencent calls Chris from miles away to tell him what to do.

Why do you think GGG finally did something with bots in Incursion? Even though they did nothing to stop rampant botting in 3+ Leagues before.

Maybe coincidence, but still.
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SunL4D2 wrote:
You are right Tencent calls Chris from miles away to tell him what to do.

Why do you think GGG finally did something with bots in Incursion? Even though they did nothing to stop rampant botting in 3+ Leagues before.

Maybe coincidence, but still.


Yeah, it couldn't possibly have anything to do with the massive amount of resources they got from the Tencent deal, right? It has to be Tencent forcing their hand, because GGG has always said they love bots in their games.

A little optimism can go a long way, you know, when you simply have no idea what you're talking about.
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.
Last edited by Xavathos#5130 on Sep 29, 2018, 2:30:35 PM
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Xavathos wrote:
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SunL4D2 wrote:
You are right Tencent calls Chris from miles away to tell him what to do.

Why do you think GGG finally did something with bots in Incursion? Even though they did nothing to stop rampant botting in 3+ Leagues before.

Maybe coincidence, but still.


Yeah, it couldn't possibly have anything to do with the massive amount of resources they got from the Tencent deal, right? It has to be Tencent forcing their hand, because GGG has always said they love bots in their games.

A little optimism can go a long way, you know, when you simply have no idea what you're talking about.


I look at it this way, SunL4d2 is doing me a great favor keeping me and the forum informed about the current exalt/chaos exchange rate. I find it interesting and useful. The rest is less useful but sometimes amusing or interesting. Thank you, SunL4D2.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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] 1:111 No bots were harmed during filming of Delve.
Last edited by SunL4D2#6224 on Sep 30, 2018, 9:31:28 PM
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Alfatin wrote:
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postrach_myszy wrote:

Let me explain :) There are 2 “gold mines” in Act 8 – Imperial Fields and Grain Gate. I use them quite often to get rid of some unwanted prophecies, and during such runs I always get at least 2 Rain of Chaos cards. Moreover, other currency cards can drop there, so if you are professional botter… Lets do some math. Approximately each Imperial fields run player/bot can earn at least 2,5 chaos orbs – 2 from “chaos recipe” and 0,5 from cards, other type of currency.

That’s minimum. After successful run bot just move to Grain Gate and continue farming. Let’s assume, instance “reset” time is 3 minutes. Then it is at least 20 Imperial fields and 20 Grain Gain runs in 1 hour. It is 100 chaos orb per hour/per 1 bot. Let’s assume “farmer” have 30 computers with bot on each of them, “working” 24h/day. It is 2400x30. Hello! 72000 chaos orbs each day from just one 30-computers “bot farm”. Let’s count on current prices. 72000 (chaos)/115. It is… 626 exalted orbs daily on current prices. With such amount of farmed chaos orbs “hyperinflation” is inevitable.


The only thing that makes this theory too far from reality is that Imperial fields is a level 58 area and Grain Gate is 57. You need atleast ilvl 60 items to do chaos recipe. But it still does not mean that you are totally wrong. You wrote right about how they produce so much currency. Bots spam chaos recipe but they do it on maps.

It is not "theory", it is fact. Besides, both Imperial Fields and Grain Gate drops rare items with ilvl 60-61, check it yourself, like I did. Gathered such items countless time there myself - for "valuable combination" prophecy. It is easiest method to obtain ilvl 60 items for persons, who "normally" plays red maps and deep delves all the time.

@SunL4D2
You see? Price behaves exactly as I foretold few day ago. 115 peak, then down, according to the loss of interest in the league :)
Last edited by postrach_myszy#3054 on Oct 1, 2018, 6:27:56 AM

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