[3.7] 1H-Impale Cyclone Champion/Slayer - 16M+ Shaper DPS Fullbuffed / 158%-220% Movspeed Speedy Boy

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Sountel wrote:

Guys, what you thinking about use Conqueror's Efficiency Crimson Jewel + Precision aura lvl 1?

Leap Slam 20 lvl cost about 10 mana, so we need atleast 32 mana after activate all auras for Precision + leap slam.


It`s seems like bust for 1 jewel socket. But we will lose benefits from currently jewel like hp e.t.c.

And we need 1 socket in gear for aura by the way.

Using this build as a slayer.

Running Pride + Flesh&stone/Maim + Enlighten 3 and Dread Banner + Blood&sand + Precision lv3 on a second set.
Got -9 mana cost of skills with my 2 rings. Cyclone is free, Leap Slam cost 3 mana.
7 mana left, blood rage cost is 7.

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imheedu wrote:

i see punishment is better than vulnerability right?

Indeed it is, changed it in both PoB Version, yielded roughly 6% more damage.

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aaOzymandias wrote:

What do people feel is more effective, slayer or champion? I manged to theory craft a 38 aoe champ, but slayer is at 43, would that be too noticeable difference?

Sounds like you sacrificed some damage for it. Of course with the damage we have both are viable, but Slayer will have an easier time since he doesn't need to sacrifice as much hp. On the other hand, champion takes less damage overall.

It's mostly personal preference, I'd say Slayer is easier to scale and more forgiving for mapping, champ is better if you wanna farm high bosses and want to benefit from more defense

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Example257 wrote:

I will try this build on HC so what is safer to play? Slayer or Champ?

If you play this build I highly recommend taking far more life, I'm talking up to 7k life. You also have to decide if you rather want to heal up quicker (Slayer) or take less damage overall (champion).

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Sountel wrote:

Guys, what you thinking about use Conqueror's Efficiency Crimson Jewel + Precision aura lvl 1?

Leap Slam 20 lvl cost about 10 mana, so we need atleast 32 mana after activate all auras for Precision + leap slam.


It`s seems like bust for 1 jewel socket. But we will lose benefits from currently jewel like hp e.t.c.

And we need 1 socket in gear for aura by the way.

That is an option, will lose some defense tho and the damage we got is somewhere in the 2% more area.

I guess a factor is also who can delve deeper, perhaps both can go to reasonable depths just fine.

Not played cyclone outside cast on crit for years, so fun to get to test it a bit again! The new AOE is bonkers however you look at ti, but bigger and better in the form of Slayer might be the way to go. Would do a Starforge, but damn those prices.

Loving this build :)

Got red elder down today and got lucky getting the Impale additional 2 stacks Jewel!

ok i have a question about mana reserve....

Pride + flesh and stone + maim + blood and sand + dread banner leaves me with 10 mana. not enough to cyclone and not enough for the cwdt to cast the golem.

what am i doing wrong?

funny whirly though ;)

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Pälzer wrote:

ok i have a question about mana reserve....

Pride + flesh and stone + maim + blood and sand + dread banner leaves me with 10 mana. not enough to cyclone and not enough for the cwdt to cast the golem.

what am i doing wrong?

funny whirly though ;)

CWDT don't care about mana
You can find someone to craft -4/5 mana cost os skills on your rings, cyclone will be free.

you posted a slayer t15 map, that means you play as a slayer now ? cuz slayer is better ? and how did you manage to get that big of an aoe ? i know slayer gives some but not that big. Btw it would be nice if you show you gear and skill tree onb those videos, cheers.

I Also want to know if now slayer is better overall.
that aoe on vid seems crazy also the extra dps on bosses is a plus

so u change 6-link setup or nor ? i see in video 3 red 3 green ... so its without channeling

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RON1N wrote:

you posted a slayer t15 map, that means you play as a slayer now ? cuz slayer is better ? and how did you manage to get that big of an aoe ? i know slayer gives some but not that big. Btw it would be nice if you show you gear and skill tree onb those videos, cheers.

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harryhess wrote:

I Also want to know if now slayer is better overall.
that aoe on vid seems crazy also the extra dps on bosses is a plus

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ITALJANECC wrote:

so u change 6-link setup or nor ? i see in video 3 red 3 green ... so its without channeling

Answered in FAQ. Long story short: I prefer leveling with Slayer, not Bossing, since champ gives us more defense.

The setup I use at the moment is not the finished one, obviously, the PoB-build is layed out for edngame, I'm not in endgame yet, so I swap stuff around to get by my limited ressoures.

I don't get how people still ask why I swap gear around, I can't afford the BiS Items yet, as mostly no one can, but as every build you have to make the ressources you have count and work with it.

Infused Channeling is expensive to come by since you need to fix gear on already packed stuff.

Slayer is easier to level with in maps as long as you don't get 1shot.


FAQ doubled so we don't repeat the same questions every 2 pages.