"
_Daybit_ wrote:
"
Jerle wrote:
I’m not sure double corrupt alone will keep the card relevant gameplay wise. And that’s exactly my point. That these custom designs mostly satisfy creators’ desire to have personal symbols embedded to the game. To expect that your card has lasting gameplay relevance is to set yourself for disappointment.
You're right in a way.
Still, I hope it would keep it more relevance than Map Tier 2 card.
"The Web"'s example still exists though, to see how balance changes could render an idea completely unuseable, so you're certainly right about personal relevance. I just hope that my cards would stay relevant at least for one league, because it's quite sad to see it hidden in loot filters (so no one would actually pick it up in game itself).
It is very sad indeed.
It will convert your forum titles into decorative square badges that use the space next to your forum posts more economically so that you can show off an unlimited number of them at any one time. - GGG, 2018 (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3573673)
|
Posted byJerle#2906on Dec 6, 2020, 10:33:19 PM
|
"
Jerle wrote:
"
_Daybit_ wrote:
"
Jerle wrote:
there can be no expectation of meta relevance.
Not sure about that.
The card's story is interesting, but it's guaranteed to be hidden in every lootfilter, since, well, it's Map Tier 2 in current atlas. Should be at least Watchstone Count: 4 (honestly, every map reward card should have this by default) :(
There is a reason that every single of my cards (including the one which is planned for 3.14, which could, though unlikely, change, since I am waiting for patch notes) features double corrupted items - this provides at least some kind of gameplay relevance, even if the item in question would be nerfed, it would provide an idea "what if such item would come as double-corrupted" (since, in this case no one would spend their Altar on nerfed out-of-meta now item).
I’m not sure double corrupt alone will keep the card relevant gameplay wise. And that’s exactly my point. That these custom designs mostly satisfy creators’ desire to have personal symbols embedded to the game. To expect that your card has lasting gameplay relevance is to set yourself for disappointment.
Maybe so, but still, your imput remains in the game which is nice. Others never care about your story as much as you do anyway. One type of card could stay relevant for a while though: currency related cards. I once got 5 exalts from the emperor's luck card so while it is usually 5 armour shards or something, people like me are picking those cards up anyway. A common card that gives a stack of alts also isn't in the game yet i think. Would be neat.
|
Posted byDistantBliss#1333on Dec 7, 2020, 12:06:02 AM
|
"
Jerle wrote:
"
_Daybit_ wrote:
"
Jerle wrote:
there can be no expectation of meta relevance.
Not sure about that.
The card's story is interesting, but it's guaranteed to be hidden in every lootfilter, since, well, it's Map Tier 2 in current atlas. Should be at least Watchstone Count: 4 (honestly, every map reward card should have this by default) :(
There is a reason that every single of my cards (including the one which is planned for 3.14, which could, though unlikely, change, since I am waiting for patch notes) features double corrupted items - this provides at least some kind of gameplay relevance, even if the item in question would be nerfed, it would provide an idea "what if such item would come as double-corrupted" (since, in this case no one would spend their Altar on nerfed out-of-meta now item).
I’m not sure double corrupt alone will keep the card relevant gameplay wise. And that’s exactly my point. That these custom designs mostly satisfy creators’ desire to have personal symbols embedded to the game. To expect that your card has lasting gameplay relevance is to set yourself for disappointment.
Every two implicit krangled unique card is at least niche usable at present. Some much more so.
They may not remain there forever but they will be used for a while. Also there's challenges for them in many leagues.
Le Toucan Will Return
|
Posted bysirgog#5608on Dec 7, 2020, 12:48:17 AM
|
|
this is why i think its so fun to be a game developer. You get to do all this whacky stuff with your game
|
|
|
great stuff
|
Posted byy562565#6861on Dec 7, 2020, 5:30:06 AM
|
|
Congatulations on teaching yourself Inkscape. It's a very raw tool and while your graphics have typical flaws, it's one of the best starts I've seen! Compare it to my first graphic in Inkscape, 13 years ago: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Szpilka_vectorized.svg
http://krzysiu.net
By job: programmer and PC repair technician. By passion: photography and DIY movement. I'm glad when I can help! Feel free to ask me about PC/technical stuff.
|
Posted byKrzysiuNet#4535on Dec 7, 2020, 9:48:41 AMBanned
|
|
That's a hilarious backstory.
Curiosity is followed by ambition. Ambition, is followed by madness.
|
|
|
This is a great story (:
Uploaded an awesome Exsanguinate Freeze Explosion build on the forums - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3508506
|
|
"
_Daybit_ wrote:
"
Jerle wrote:
I’m not sure double corrupt alone will keep the card relevant gameplay wise. And that’s exactly my point. That these custom designs mostly satisfy creators’ desire to have personal symbols embedded to the game. To expect that your card has lasting gameplay relevance is to set yourself for disappointment.
You're right in a way.
Still, I hope it would keep it more relevance than Map Tier 2 card.
"The Web"'s example still exists though, to see how balance changes could render an idea completely unuseable, so you're certainly right about personal relevance. I just hope that my cards would stay relevant at least for one league, because it's quite sad to see it hidden in loot filters (so no one would actually pick it up in game itself).
Tumbleweed creator here ( nasaboy007). I personally chose this reward knowing very well that it would instantly be hidden from every loot filter, and that's totally OK with me. I designed it for myself, and having it be a useless reward means that it'll be relatively common (since GGG decides the drop rate), and I'd be able to get a copy for myself every league very easily (either self farming or just buying it for like 1c). I think it just comes down to opinions of what the creators want, but both philosophies of "give me a relevant reward" and "I just want my card in the game" are equally valid. I happen fall into the latter group! :)
|
|
"
OmniDefenestrator wrote:
Tumbleweed creator here ( nasaboy007). I personally chose this reward knowing very well that it would instantly be hidden from every loot filter, and that's totally OK with me. I designed it for myself, and having it be a useless reward means that it'll be relatively common (since GGG decides the drop rate), and I'd be able to get a copy for myself every league very easily (either self farming or just buying it for like 1c). I think it just comes down to opinions of what the creators want, but both philosophies of "give me a relevant reward" and "I just want my card in the game" are equally valid. I happen fall into the latter group! :)
I see, and if that card makes you happy, this design is fine :)
However, why not make it "Watchstone Count: 4"? I mean, it would still be 1-3c at worst, since T14 are going for 7-10c after first days of the league, but it could have practical application (like Chateau Watchstone Count: 4 divination card was good in Mayhem to get to T14 maps).
There are so many cards with maps as rewards, and every single of them could be fixed with Watchstone Count: 4 to be decently relevant. GGG decided to do that just for Perandus Manor's cards for some reason on Sirus' release.
|
|
