Development Manifesto: Harvest Crafting

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A good news for everyone not exploiting the system and who wants to find items and a bad one for everyone who got used to play, earn oder faceroll content with it.


A Diablo-type (ARPG) game should be about finding items to use or trade ... not finding baseitems and to craft them into a nearly perfect items.


Compare what you can find with some things ppl crafted like 1000 DPS 1-hand , 1500DPS 2hand or +6 +7 +8 Staffs. Why pick stuff from the ground ? Right .. you don´t any longer.

This game completely derailed into a currency-per-hour grind to craft/buy the near perfect items for the top 5 % of players and for a buy a bossfight-complete from those same 5% for the bottom 60% that would not even see the top of the new content in most leagues at all.

Remove it altogether or just leave it as is. We don't need another useless core mechanic.

Given people some shit is easy,take away it from them is hard .

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sirgog wrote:

This has made me much more excited for 3.14. Thank you for having the courage to do this

I played Diablo 1 with item editor cheats as a teen, and they took all of the fun out of the game.

Harvest in the hands of an experienced player feels just like that, and it's sapped my interest this league to know that whatever I'm doing in game, I would get much more powerful crafting rewards by grinding scoured tier 9 Haewark maps, then sitting in a trade discord.

When the most powerful strategy is as anti-fun as that, it kills interest in the game.

Harvest will remain the dominant way to craft jewels with these changes, and a lot of the second tier crafts will become good with the broken ones gone.

Also let this be a lesson - you can't balance with rarity. All 'balance through rarity' achieves is concentrating wealth.

Did you have to pay other players to affect one mod using that item editor of yours?

Instead of improving Bestiary-crafting which already exist with new recipes, increasing number of beasts contained we got this. Game forces players to farm faster and do more content while nerfed Harvest will be slowing-down part of content with several "rerolls" which we actually can get from Chaos orbs dropping on the maps. Faster we go - more chaos we get. Why should players even be bothered to visit harvest if they can get more currency by farming and buy items they want? Those who play a lot, farming a lot will get their top tier loot still. More players got access to high tier items and endgame content? I thought it was Your goal to get more people into the game.
Want new players to get into crafting system? New players dont even know that game starts after act 10. Give them stack of Alchemy and Scouring obrs and 5L base during Storyline.
Problems with trading crafts via discord? What did you expect? Players using a lot of 3rd-party things to play this game. For some of them even RMT is an option. So let players trade crafts as bestiary orbs via tradesite.

This ain't it, chief.
GGG, yet again you're completely out of touch with your community. This league was the first time I actually crafted something decent for myself which I didnt have to go out and buy for 300 exalts which I don't have. You cater to 0.1% of the players and how they use your system to actually upset rest of your player base and fucking them over in the process.

Crafting should not be a gamble.

I repeat

CRAFTING SHOULD NOT BE A GAMBLE


I came back to the game after a year of hiatus, and was super excited to learn about this new mechanic, I guess I will go to on another hiatus for god knows how long because you guys clearly don't understand what your community actually wants, you want everyone to spend 1000 hours of farming for exalts instead to buy an item just so you can rack up the player play-time. Guess what? It ain't happening not when you pull stunts like this.

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JJaxxo wrote:

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P_Johann wrote:

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"We don't want to take away the feeling of closing your eyes and Exalting an item, scared to see whether you ruined it or not."

Why are they trying to sell this quote as something good? Like what the hell, i can counter times when i yolo exalted something by one finger. Middle finger to be precise because of course it was trash mod.

This +1

Hahahah. GGG! You got trolled by this employer pretty hard.

Nobody is sane mind doing this.
Seriously.

N O B O D Y

Do we need to say why?
Cuz its pretty obvious.

Its not crafting at all.
Nit even close.
Its bloody Casino Gambling.

For ex:
And when you have base costs you 100ex - NO way you ruining it with just one ex. Its extremely lame move. You really think we are so extremely lame, GGG?

"That feeling"

lol

i honestly cant believe ggg caved to reddit and gutted harvest like this just because the best players in a game can abuse it doesnt mean they should make it un usable to basically all casual players... it blows my mind that a few streemers abuse it and their communities complain so they just decide to make harvest literally worthless more then a week into the league.

without a doubt i would rather have them just flat out remove harvest all together then make the influenced item change its basically like spitting in our faces because of some whinners.
honestly whats the fucking point? when was the last time you harvest crafted on a non influenced item? harvest is a system as a whole that already punished lack of knowledge... now it will punish the lack of knowledge that its shit instead of how to use it

Hello GGG,
Actually, I know Harvest crafting will be nerfed because it is way too overpowered. It will eventually ruin your game in long term due to it is item-oriented game. With harvest, people can easily min max their builds and stops playing(Because progression keeps us playing this game). However,
When ZiggyD interviewed with Chris Wilson before Harvest League, Chris Wilson said "We will regret to annnounce this league" so why did you make the same "mistake"? We have played your game long before harvest thing and we dont care if there is no harvest craft at all. So just remove it completely from your game. Everyone will be happy!! At least some reasonable ones :D