widescreen resolution removed from the game.

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ArtCrusade wrote:

The underlying mechanism of reductio ad absurdum is a legitimate one as long as the logical extreme stays consistent with with the proposition. I hope the irony isn't lost on you when you say I simply don't accept your arguments while you dismiss anything without engaging in a factual, serious manner. It's an ill-mannered approach to debating.


You know what I find ironic? You quote me, then respond to someone else's post, arrive at a partial conclusion I've also made many times (Fog of War), and then state you "don't accept [my] arguments" and that I'm not engaging in a "factual" and "serious" manner. I honestly can't tell if you are trolling or just not reading carefully.

Nobody reasonable in this thread is arguing "I want my advantage back", though certainly people are asking the question "Um... I see [xyz] advantages that are at least as significant as this and they're allowed, why remove this one GGG?". Everyone reasonable in this thread is pointing out "Black bars are an unacceptable way to address this, GGG".

If you want to argue that black bars are a defensible, logical inclusion in this game, the basic argument that needs refutation is as follows:

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tackle70 wrote:

I don't feel like repeating myself for the millionth time as to the substance here for why black bars are an objectively bad design choice with zero rational defense. You can read the thread if you want. the TL;DR is:
  • This is a non-competitive PvE game
  • It's OK to remove ultrawide support for competitive modes e.g. PVP/prize races, but this does not necessitate removal for the base game
  • There are many allowed hardware and software advantages, many of which arguably impact the game much more than 32:9 gameplay; selectively removing one is nothing but arbitrary
  • Ultrawide users can work around this anyway, so this doesn't actually solve any problems from "bad actors" or people intent on exploits. Only regular players following TOS are affected.
  • If there are problems with ultrawide resolutions, black bars are not an acceptable solution. Multiple acceptable alternatives throughout this thread have been presented - fog of war, AI adjustments, variable FOV, bug fixes, etc.


For black bars to be OK and for this thread to go away, two things must both be true - first, the advantage given by 32:9 is a problem and needs to be removed and second, black bars are the appropriate way to do this.

I personally disagree with both of those things, but I recognize disagreement with the first part is just that - I disagree. However, it is the second part of that argument I believe objectively bad game design, indefensible, and worthy of an indefinite feedback thread until GGG finds a better solution.

I suspect the real issue is that black bars are a lazy fix that required 30 minutes of dev time by an intern, quality fixes require actual dev time, and they decided they just don't care about something affecting a tiny fraction of the player-base. I still believe that is unacceptable.

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