No outrage to make LOK event longer????

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RevertHarvest wrote:

It should have been an event to craft some crazy stuff for everyone. When you put these 2 events together, they should have known they made something incredible.

The issue is that many people may take 2 days just to get to maps and then even longer to complete map bonuses.

With something like this, if it's going to be 7 days, they could start us at lvl 58 or have maps already completed. it only knocks off a few hours for the 1% but opens up a lot for everyone else.

I'm not going to speculate everything they could have done. it's just disappointing that in the 1 life we get, devs almost always choose the wrong options for us to deal with.

We wouldn't need such events to think about unethical insane items if we had both recombs and LoK in the core game in some way. I understand that they don't put everything into the core game in order to keep some stuff "balanced" but it's kinda sad cause they also don't care about the games balance in other aspects. Take a look at the little changes they've made over the past few leagues regarding skills on it's own. Even if we had both recombs and LoK or even Crucible as part of the core game, it wouldn't really change much of the game cause the balance is already heavily messed up anyways. If anything it would enable a bit more stuff for players to play or mess around with, which would also add more interest to a league to achieve whatever someone sets on their goal.

It's just already quite questionable that a small team puts in the time to add stuff to the game only to ditch some concepts and work right away after a single league.

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Pashid wrote:

We wouldn't need such events to think about unethical insane items if we had both recombs and LoK in the core game

TBF

I hate recombs and lok. But together it could be fun for a little bit. Recombs actually do ruin the game and feel like slot machines more than anything else in the game. There should be ways to do what it does, like getting 5 essence mods on an item but not by pulling the lever.

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Pashid wrote:

You would need a +3 charges synth base with +2 charges as prefix in order to beat the amount of current highest charges. That's possible without LoK but wasn't done by anyone before even with recombs being a thing in standard.

+3 synth is possible?

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Pashid wrote:

With Lok you would need to get a +1 charge turn into +2 charges and recomb it onto a +3 charges synth base for 5 charges.

LoK outputs mirrored. Unless you mean sth other than what I read into it this cant work.

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Pashid wrote:

Or you would need even more insane luck to get a ring with 2 +1 prefix charges and turn them into a +4 prefix charges ring and recomb those onto a +2 or +3 charges synth base.

Not sure what you mean here either.. LoK outputs mirrored. Unless you mean sth other than what I read into it this cant work.

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Anyway in order to beat +4 you just need +1 synth with 2 +1 prefixes on the ring and throw it into Kalandra. Dont know how hard +2 prefixes on the ring is. But IIRC the Kalandra part doesnt require "insane luck".

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Pashid wrote:

If you dive even deeper into it it would only be great for achieving a higher amount of charges, but current prefect mirror tier gear would still outperform the 2 or 3 more charges simply because all the other mods are just on point.

Depends. This is kind of too complex to discuss properly here. The basic idea for that kind of crafting is to pick mods that can be good "both ways".

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Zrevnur wrote:

Anyway in order to beat +4 you just need +1 synth with 2 +1 prefixes on the ring and throw it into Kalandra. Dont know how hard +2 prefixes on the ring is. But IIRC the Kalandra part doesnt require "insane luck".

The problem is that you can't use the mirror tile on anything else but a normal item. That's why you would have to hit the perfect luck a few times to recomb everything together. You'd have to start to recomb rings together until you hit two rings with +1 charge and recomb those together to get a chance for a ring with +2 charges. You throw this one into the lake tile in hope that you get both charges doubled and there are a couple of possible outcomes because you could also get -1 and +2 charges. After the lake part you'd have to get your +2 synth base and hope that you get to recomb all 4 mods together into one item. You can't really make much of a backup at any giving point in the craft so if you fail once you have to restart at step one again.

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Pashid wrote:

The problem is that you can't use the mirror tile on anything else but a normal item.

What you mean with "normal item"?

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Pashid wrote:

You throw this one into the lake tile in hope that you get both charges doubled and there are a couple of possible outcomes because you could also get -1 and +2 charges.

Far as I remember this is not how it works. You can only get +2 or -2 if the Kalandra tile is high enough.

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Pashid wrote:

After the lake part you'd have to get your +2 synth base and hope that you get to recomb all 4 mods together into one item.

Again: Are you trying to say that recombs work on mirrored? FAQ says no. Or are you trying to say LoK doesnt output mirrored? Or are you blatantly ignoring what I write?

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Pashid wrote:

That's why you would have to hit the perfect luck a few times to recomb everything together. You'd have to start to recomb rings together until you hit two rings with +1 charge and recomb those together to get a chance for a ring with +2 charges.

How to craft ring with multiple +charges with recombs, no mirrored components:
Section 8a in https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/vko2n1/the_complete_guide_to_recombinators_part_2/

Edit: This has +1 synth & 3x +1 prefix

As to LoK outputting mirrored rings - see here:Both directions have the "mirrored" on them.

Edit: typo

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Zrevnur wrote:

What you mean with "normal item"?

Literally what it means, a non influenced, non mirrored or corrupted item. So yes you can't use a synth item on the lake tile.

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Zrevnur wrote:

Far as I remember this is not how it works. You can only get +2 or -2 if the Kalandra tile is high enough.

No you either get your mod doubled or placed into a negative value. double amount of 1 charge are two charges and +1 charge turns to -1 charge.

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Zrevnur wrote:

Again: Are you trying to say that recombs work on mirrored? FAQ says no. Or are you trying to say LoK doesnt output mirrored? Or are you blatantly ignoring what I write?

They used to work on mirrored items but it doesn't really matter cause even if you skip the last part to slap everything together you'd still have to go through the pain to recomb your ring with the charges in order to attempt a single try to get something good out of the LoK mechanic. nonetheless pretty low odds with just a 1 week event.

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Pashid wrote:

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Zrevnur wrote:

What you mean with "normal item"?

Literally what it means, a non influenced, non mirrored or corrupted item. So yes you can't use a synth item on the lake tile.

If thats true they would have to go for +6.

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Pashid wrote:

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Zrevnur wrote:

Far as I remember this is not how it works. You can only get +2 or -2 if the Kalandra tile is high enough.

No you either get your mod doubled or placed into a negative value. double amount of 1 charge are two charges and +1 charge turns to -1 charge.

Source? Look at the ring I posted. It has T2 all resist negated.

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Pashid wrote:

you'd still have to go through the pain to recomb your ring with the charges in order to attempt a single try to get something good out of the LoK mechanic. nonetheless pretty low odds with just a 1 week event.

Based on the link I posted my guess is that its realistically possible. Not sure what the exact odds are though.

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Source? Look at the ring I posted. It has T2 all resist negated.

Source: check the trade website for -1 to Minimum whatever Charges.

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Zrevnur wrote:

Based on the link I posted my guess is that its realistically possible. Not sure what the exact odds are though.

It's not even possible with your link because they take advantage of influenced items to higher the chance to keep the recomb mods during the process. and they also put the final result onto a synth item. You're going to have a hard time to get the +3 charges without influence blocking on a non influenced item, cause once again you're not able to throw a influenced item into the lake mechanic.