Please dont make the same mistake in poe 2.

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Strickl3r wrote:

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Gopstop22 wrote:

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insectbrain wrote:

While TFT can be useful and make some things easier, it is by no means necessary or mandatory. If someone feels it is, that's not the game's problem, or even TFT's for that matter.

TFT is mandatory and necessary for people who want to be efficient at selling/buying/farming for example i can sell entire scarab tab in 5 minutes worth 80 divines good luck doing that without TFT and selling each scarab seperetly you will be doing it for days i can do it in 5 minutes and thats just scarab tab the same thing goes for anything else in bulk so again it is MANDATORY for anyone who buy/sell in bulk becuz you cant do it in game only with third party tools

Honest question: Why would anyone buy a full stash tab of scarabs(incl. hundreds of random rusted and polsihed) and not just the scarabs they need?

I don't treat poe as a buisness so i just sell stuff as i go to get a 6 link at league start or whatever, so i dunno, lolz...

because they reroll the trash scarabs with harvest juice and then bulk sell the good ones to make money. some rusted/polished ones are also good money depending on their type

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Aynix wrote:

And GGG doesnt need to make it easy for you. Want it easy? Beg for it on TFT. But stop with this bs that its "mandatory". Its a videogame. Not water or food or other life necessity.

And I never said they need to? I'm on the opposite side as I mentioned, some things are best left to the community, because even if ggg tried to do what tft is doing, they wouldn't be able to do it as efficiently. It's just like how it is with wow addons. I completely disagree with the OP in this regard.

TFT is mandatory if you want to min-max stuff and save time, simple as that. If you think otherwise, gl spending hours on stuff that's readily available for a few divs on tft. I can understand why an ssf player or a casual player would say that tft is not a necessity, but it's the most important tool for the actual endgame unless you're just that adamant on wasting time on basic stuff

Yes, the part "if you want to min-max stuff and save time" is very important, and most of the time people forget to add it. That is true. However, it is not mandatory to play the game, even if you are veteran doing uber bosses etc.

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Gopstop22 wrote:

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insectbrain wrote:

While TFT can be useful and make some things easier, it is by no means necessary or mandatory. If someone feels it is, that's not the game's problem, or even TFT's for that matter.

TFT is mandatory and necessary for people who want to be efficient at selling/buying/farming for example i can sell entire scarab tab in 5 minutes worth 80 divines good luck doing that without TFT and selling each scarab seperetly you will be doing it for days i can do it in 5 minutes and thats just scarab tab the same thing goes for anything else in bulk so again it is MANDATORY for anyone who buy/sell in bulk becuz you cant do it in game only with third party tools

Attaching specific conditions relating to personal desires to something still doesn't invalidate a general statement. TFT is still not mandatory to play POE.

It can be useful and helpful in certain conditions, more so if efficiency is of prime importance. It's not for everyone though as not everyone wants to play POE like it's a job.

As far as taking days to liquidate stash tabs, c'mon. Just do the same as the people who buy those stash tabs (usually at a discount), convert them via the horticrafting station to whatever the most in-demand items are and price them in bulk. It won't take days if you're at least semi-competitive in your pricing, and you'll make more currency. It's not like the people buying stashes want to use them, they want to profit from little effort.

It's still very possible to buy and sell in bulk for most items via the trade site. I'll concede that buying compasses and fragment sets and the like in bulk isn't that great though. Still far from mandatory, otherwise you wouldn't be able to do it all.

so why ppl even sell all they scarabs and not roll them self and make easy profit :D the more this go on the funnier it gets .

but hey maybe i am just dumb for not needed tft to play a game :D

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Strickl3r wrote:

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Gopstop22 wrote:

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insectbrain wrote:

While TFT can be useful and make some things easier, it is by no means necessary or mandatory. If someone feels it is, that's not the game's problem, or even TFT's for that matter.

TFT is mandatory and necessary for people who want to be efficient at selling/buying/farming for example i can sell entire scarab tab in 5 minutes worth 80 divines good luck doing that without TFT and selling each scarab seperetly you will be doing it for days i can do it in 5 minutes and thats just scarab tab the same thing goes for anything else in bulk so again it is MANDATORY for anyone who buy/sell in bulk becuz you cant do it in game only with third party tools

Honest question: Why would anyone buy a full stash tab of scarabs(incl. hundreds of random rusted and polsihed) and not just the scarabs they need?

I don't treat poe as a buisness so i just sell stuff as i go to get a 6 link at league start or whatever, so i dunno, lolz...

As a someone who actually does that let me explain: becuase flipping is the best money/h in the game. Some of people use harvest to change them to better, but thats just some little profit on the side. What we flippers do is buy 10-20 bulk tabs with scarabs/essences (and few other stuff) with everything in it priced for 95%-105% of the price and then we sell then separately, for even 150-200% of the price because we have huge bulk of something that people want. This league I was reliably making 20div/h when I fully focues on it and around 10div/h while watching something on 2nd monitor and trading from time to time. I NEVER sell stuff on TFT, that is waste of money. I only buy there from those who preffer to get less but save on time.

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anti4z500 wrote:

so why ppl even sell all they scarabs and not roll them self and make easy profit :D the more this go on the funnier it gets .

but hey maybe i am just dumb for not needed tft to play a game :D

the same reason why only a fraction of people roll sextants to sell them, it's boring

just because your friends do it without it doesnt mean they shouldnt implement better QOL for trading and not rely on 3rd party tho.... if that were sound logic nothing would get better in this game

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Aynix wrote:

Its not mandatory. Vast majority of the playerbase never used it.

I'm not asking for such a thing, I actually prefer it the other way around. It's better some things are outsourced and aren't actually in the game, just like wow addons. tft is basically an addon

and saying that tft isn't mandatory for some stuff is a bold statement. if I have to have 28 quality on my flasks to be able to permanently sustain them, how am I going to do it without tft if I'm not running betrayal? give my progenesis to a random player in a chat channel? nah fam. or how am I going to get the enchants I need if my build isn't good for running lab? aisling slams? tft is mandatory for some stuff, and this isn't a bad thing [/quote]
But this is a bad thing for people who dont like to interact with 3rd party things like discord....

I would like them to add itemized betrayal crafts, that is for sure!

GGG plz

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TheKeeperOfMorte wrote:

just because your friends do it without it doesnt mean they shouldnt implement better QOL for trading and not rely on 3rd party tho.... if that were sound logic nothing would get better in this game

tft will always exist, no matter what ggg does or implements, because ggg simply can't implement everything tft offers. same for pob tbh.