POE builds are overcomplicated mess.

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dima_dunedin wrote:
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Mikrotherion wrote:

However, endgame isn't locked because there IS none to speak of.


What is the difference between going to map, which represent area from the game, or simply going to this area directly?
There are different locations in every act of Diablo 2 with monster level 85, you just go there and farm. Same maps.


What about Shaper, Elder, Eater of Worlds, Searing Exarch, Maven, Conquerors esp. Sirus, Atziri, Blight Ravaged maps, Breachlord Domains?
They are not the same as going to a level 85 area in Diablo.
OK, some of those are not as accessible, and you said endgame in PoE was gated.
But cursorTarget already pointed out that maps are not just areas of level X, like in Diablo 2, but can be modified in different ways.
And while some resemble levels you already know from the campaign, others are their own thing and also, even if they look the same, have unique bosses (again, not all of them).
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Even if we accepted OP's claim that PoE would be too complicated and that builds were too complicated, what's the proposed solution to this made-up problem? Removing half the skills? Going back to 3.0?

Maybe OP should admit that really, they just want to play Diablo 2 and not Path of Exile
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dima_dunedin wrote:

Well, I have marauder cyclone build with Atziri's Disfavour (which you have to farm from Uber Atziri only), 6 links on everything possible, 20 lvl 20% quality gems, lvl 93, and I spend minutes on every second 9-10 map just to kill one rare mob.
And this was meta build back in the day before they nerfed cyclone, I didnt make it myself. If I did, it would have 6k dps, because before you start making builds in this game you should spend 2 years reading PoE wiki and internet and get Ph.D in PoE science.


You could do what any reasonable human being should. Find a new build, or if you really want to stick with cyclone for some reason an already optimized build guide. You dont need to study wiki. Its for people who like this kind of things, you can benefit from their work if you are not good enough to make your own builds. I most likely could make a decent build by myself but i still use build guides for skills i want. Why should i spent 12 hours optimizing the build if the work is already done by people who are into that shit? I would arrive to the same conclusions anyway with very minor differences.
Honestlu the worst part of poe builds is getting defenses. Which ones you ask, well every build has like 90% of all available defenses on the game. Arm/ es with suppress or fort/ block. Gotta have at least 59% phys as ele. Gotta have at least 60 chaos resist on ya gear, don't forget some bonus max res to feel good. Oh yeah gotta have some recoup.

Don't forget 500-1500 regen.

Its stupid really. Play an assassin. Determination grace suppression. Play glad. Determination grace suppression and block. Play allow builds xetermination grace suppression.

They really messed up in a bad way when a "proper" build really just has every defensive box checked.
Not even remotely true. Grace and determination are just the easiest to implement into any build. Those you mentioned are the most basic defenses you can get. My pathfinder is using only phys as ele and suppression for example, i have flasks doing the work. You can go with armor stacker and make it work on ele dmg, you can convert everything to chaos and be done that way etc. Defenses are more diverse and easier to get then ever before. Poeple are just stuck on idea that having 75% res and 4k life is having defenses when its really the bare minimum.
you forgot about life/es on block recovery, ailment immunity, crit immunity, life/es leech, ele damage reduction, hit damage to DoT, ward and properly rolled flasks.

Oh wait? You still want to build defences? I think having 1B DPS is way profitable than stacking all dat trash together.
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ArtCrusade wrote:
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dima_dunedin wrote:
I had a look at current metas and realized I don't want to play any of this builds.
What do you expect from diablo like game? You choose barbarian, get two handed weapon and crash you enemies to the ground, right? No. Here barbarian must harm himself to fight enemies. There is no valid melee barbarian build in game.
What sorceres does? Armed with magical wands cast spells? Wrong again. The only half decent witch build I found is about fire something totems, but it requires a bow with almost impossible color sockets, I can't craft those. Bow, sorceres.
You now, when your game is 10 years old and every 3-4 month you add skills, gems, mechnics and nerf everything, nothing good will happen.
The lowest point of the game in my opinion was when they nerfed Cyclon, and this was the stupidest nerf ever. Cyclon doesn't depend on weapon range, what? I still play my old cyclon maradeur just because I like playing barbarian, crashing everyting with big two handed axe. Though he doesn't crash much nowadays and straggle even with some rare monsters.
I just don't want to play whirlwind with some skinny duelist armed with rapiras or staves. It hurts my sense of reality.


There are so many super easy builds for people who like it simple. For melee just go play Boneshatter Juggernaut, or Frostblades Trickster, or do whatever the hell you want because the choice is yours to make

I dunno what kinda crap build guides you have been looking at but you could'a just asked for recommendations? PoE is complex, asking for help is good.



Yeah "just" go play Boneshatter.

ONCE, you get enough damage to do Uber-bosses and Sanctum comfy, all of a sudden you get trauma stacks of doom that don't even allow you to fully play the build.

GGG, you laugh at Diablo 4 and how bad it is.

Friends, your game is nothing more than fanboi meta build pattern game that goes round and round in circles with 0 effort or skill needed to play it.
Last edited by wickedmaki on Nov 26, 2023, 11:51:29 AM
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wickedmaki wrote:
Friends, your game is nothing more than fanboi meta build pattern game that goes round and round in circles with 0 effort or skill needed to play it.

It is. And you know what's disgusting? Some of community members are developing items for the game. And as you understand - some of them are OP as hell. Welcome to korean manufactory.
Last edited by cursorTarget on Nov 26, 2023, 11:55:17 AM
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Mikrotherion wrote:

What about Shaper, Elder, Eater of Worlds, Searing Exarch, Maven, Conquerors esp. Sirus, Atziri, Blight Ravaged maps, Breachlord Domains?


Never seen them. In PoE endgame is locked. I usually ended up in some 12 lvl maps, but I remember playing some league, when winter orb was introduced, I couldn't pass lvl 6 maps. Just mapping for days and get only 1-6 lvl maps.
I liked the mines, but when I figured out, that I should farm sulphite for two weeks just to be able to play mines at depth around 80 lvl for couple of hours, I quit.
Everything is locked behind everything, 1-10 lvl maps is mine endgame.
Though now with introduction of atlas skill tree things improved a lot.
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wickedmaki wrote:

Friends, your game is nothing more than fanboi meta build pattern game that goes round and round in circles with 0 effort or skill needed to play it.


Try Exanima, there you will need all skill you can get.
Last edited by dima_dunedin on Nov 26, 2023, 12:11:36 PM

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