Who here would be willing to forego a whole expansion just to get a AH like WoW has?

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Aynix wrote:

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Baharoth15 wrote:

Even generic +3 dot bows have more steps than that. Thinking essence spam + benchcraft is all there is to crafting just shows that you know nothing about it, that isn't even start. +2 wands, +2 amulets, any kind of melee weapon, dot bows, curse+crit armor pretty much anything common i can think off has more than those 2 steps. Essence + benchcraft is absolute basic on the level of map/flask rolling. Call that basic stuff craftig if you want to but i specifically stated that i am not talking about trivial shit like that in my last post so they only gravedigging done here is by you and pashid.

Tell me more mister. Did I hurt your pride while saying that craftin, even in PoE, is simple (its just mostly RNG)?

If i got hurt by every bit of nonsense someone posts in this forum then even my corpse would have been shred to particles at this point. You can be wrong as much as you like, i may end up correcting you here and there if i feel like it but that's about it.

@ArtCrusade I wonder, do you have the selfawareness that you are the one who kicked off this nonsense?

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Baharoth15 wrote:

You can be wrong as much as you like, i may end up correcting you here and there if i feel like it but that's about it.

Well, same as you can live if your own world of elitists. "iF iT dOeSnT hAvE aT lEaSt 10 sTePs iTs nOt eVeN cRaFtInG!"

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Aynix wrote:

You are digging ur hole even more. You clearly know nothing about crafting if you think that only some 50 steps abommination can be called crafting. Pretty much every item outside of mirror tier are made in 2-3 steps. Buy base with fractured mod, spam essence/fossil until you hit guaranteed mod + mod you are looking, finish with bench craft (or annul if needed), you are done.

And its cheaper to buy it from market. Im not arguing that you can make some staff like that, im calling you out on saying that most casuals craft shit. They dont. Even essence spam on fractured base is somehting a miniscule minority engages. Most people dont even use annuls, they sell them to buy items they want. Most people dont fuse their six links, they buy items already linked with correct colors they need. When i say essence spam i mean buying white 6l of the market and using 10 essence on it until its fine, not even good. Thats where the engament with crafting ends for most people. You can add to that rerolling life on jeweles with harvest. No influence crafting, no annuls, no fracture (unless its like 5c item), no influence exalts, no double influence shit etc.

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Baharoth15 wrote:

@ArtCrusade I wonder, do you have the selfawareness that you are the one who kicked off this nonsense?

That isn't even remotely close to reality and you know it. You claimed that there is no difference between an economy based on gold and an economy based on currency that is all related to crafting, were proven wrong multiple times yet continue arguing the point anyway.

I have long stopped taking this debate seriously (altho mudfest would be more appropriate), but at least it serves as some entertainment.

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kuciol wrote:

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And its cheaper to buy it from market.

Yes, most people dont craft, for one simple reason. They play trade league and its cheaper to buy it, because crafting is mostly gamble. But vast majority of items, exluding "min max" versions are simple crafts with few steps.

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Aynix wrote:

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Baharoth15 wrote:

You can be wrong as much as you like, i may end up correcting you here and there if i feel like it but that's about it.

Well, same as you can live if your own world of elitists. "iF iT dOeSnT hAvE aT lEaSt 10 sTePs iTs nOt eVeN cRaFtInG!"

You calling someone else elitist is really ironic.

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You claimed that there is no difference between an economy based on gold and an economy based on currency that is all related to crafting, were proven wrong multiple times yet continue arguing the point anyway.

I didn't make any such claims. I asked someone else a question that wasn't even related to that topic or at least not intended to anyway. It's kinda amazing how you managed to get my question THAT wrong but even with that it's a fact that it was a question, not a claim.

I agree that this is good entertainment though.

I'd forego the game if they ever did AH bs.

And I love the "like WoW has", thinking that something that works in a MMO would work in an ARPG.

Funny how you conveniently use a completely different RPG and don't even think about mentioning Diablo 3 and how awesome their AH was.

I don't play WoW, but I play FF 14, and there is a marketplace/AH and there's no reason to believe that system would work in a game like this.

Nope. Not playing if it "gets AH like WOW". That's the day poe goes poof

Honestly the game needs trading that doesn't require any external tools, loading screens, and messaging.


Also it would be lovely to remove price fixing. Day for example a price fixer lists 100000 beasts at one chaos, an ah would force him to sell at that price instead of ignoring messages.

Another one duplicate QQ :'( :'( :'( :tears: thread about tough life of the PoE trader.

I propose to disable drop completely if you ever used that new "Bot House from WoW".