What I've seen from PoE2 so far...

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I want a summary of this summary.


Mee too.
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de99ial wrote:
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Mee too.


TLDR: "I believe in my own self-aggrandizement to the point I feel GGG should compensate me for my presence."
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Glorfndel01 wrote:
TLDR: "I believe in my own self-aggrandizement to the point I feel GGG should compensate me for my presence."


Christmas must be fun for the family when your belief is that you are God's gift to humanity
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
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ArtCrusade wrote:
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Glorfndel01 wrote:
TLDR: "I believe in my own self-aggrandizement to the point I feel GGG should compensate me for my presence."


Christmas must be fun for the family when your belief is that you are God's gift to humanity


Right?
I skimmed the OP and read the summary, thanks AC.

"Us the Supporters" made me laugh, Mr. 70$.
~ Adapt, Improvise and Overcome
Some of the responses above are generic as in certain individuals (often from the hundreds) will "paint" a picture or attempt to label someone (in this instance me) of what they want to believe rather than what the actual facts, all for the purpose to make themselves feel better because for X reason that I won't go deeper to guess, (or how they say, so they can feel better "sleep better" at night).

Sadly, these type of responses do not affect me in a negative way or educate me in a positive way (even though that is often the purpose/objective), but I can see why many are (or can be) "discouraged/bullied" to continue socializing/interacting, while personally I find it amusing, because in the end of the day the facts are behind the exact words spoken, rather than the opinions.

Further, I have history with some of the individuals who've also experienced lengthy probation for the first time. I always would prefer a place to socialize without moderation, because I support anyone to speak freely, thus anyone can respond in the same "free" manner, and in the end of the day I have not seen or heard anyone who's been "victim" from words in thousands of years.

Example, I've socialized with significantly more individuals in an "anonymous" environment compared to the general population through a long period, especially during the years when I've been either part of hundreds of guilds/clans/leagues or also led hundreds, where I've been responsible to resolve internal drama/conflict.

Now, to respond to whatever else is being discussed here in the context of this thread, anyone who's spent money supporting a game/vision counts as a "supporter", so the pretext was used accurately. The game also arrived during a period when the F2P monetizing model was gaining success, except it pushed it further to another level for a long period, which at that time it proved to be a successful strategy.

Some within the community have supported the product significantly more than me, but through my experience I've also concluded that its more important when I'm supporting a product rather than how much, and I've also came to a conclusion that the products arriving to the market are mainly driven behind motivation, while the financial part is only assisting "supporting" that motivation further.

Finally, my support toward this product is significant in comparison to any newly released product that arrived on the market through the last 13 years and 5 months and it's why I mentioned it and for no other reason, while the future of this industry and for this particular product will be (in my opinion) what it can do/deliver that will motivate the current and prior community to be "invested" or "engaged" with it and then for how long.

It should be at no surprise to anyone that success follows things like strong interest, hard work, dedication, etc. and where there's opportunity and room for success or some worthy individual prize/experience to be gained that's where others will be (flock to, migrate, prefer) using their most precious resource (their time). Example, the cost for game development is perceived to be high because of the demand for certain careers like software engineers that's high throughout many industries.

Chris Wilson is one good example of what can be gained or achieved, which is why if one thing I do regret is that unlike him my love and interest toward specific games was a lot stronger during the period of 2004-2010 that kept me distracted from not pursuing the same career/path, at least now I have the free time and money to pursue such university, and may as well do it, because in the end of the day being in the place/position where you can decide what pie you're going to enjoy eating through your lifetime is much better than to eat the one that's available in the store.
Last edited by Kopogero on Jun 9, 2024, 9:00:44 AM
As a service to the community, here's the summary. "You" is to be replaced with "Kopogero"

Spoiler
Mislabeling by Others: People often label others based on their beliefs rather than facts, to make themselves feel better. 🎭

Impact on Socialization: Such responses don't affect you negatively or educate you positively, but can discourage others from socializing. 🌐

Free Speech Advocacy: You prefer socializing without moderation and support free speech, believing no one is harmed by words. 🗣️

Experience in Anonymous Environments: You've socialized with many people anonymously, often resolving conflicts in various groups. 🤝

Support for Games: Supporting a game financially makes someone a supporter, and you've done so during the rise of the F2P model. 🎮

Motivation Over Money: It's more important when you support a product rather than how much. Products are driven by motivation, with finances supporting this. 💡

Significant Support: Your support for a particular product has been significant over 13 years, aiming to motivate and engage the community. 📈

Path to Success: Success follows interest, hard work, and dedication. High demand for careers like software engineers makes game development costly. 💼

Personal Regret and Future Plans: You regret not pursuing a career in game development earlier but now have the time and money to pursue it. 🎓


It's cute that ChatGPT added emojis to the list. Could be 1:1 a post from Facebook
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
Last edited by ArtCrusade on Jun 9, 2024, 9:00:57 AM
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ArtCrusade wrote:
As a service to the community, here's the summary. "You" is to be replaced with "Kopogero"

Spoiler
Mislabeling by Others: People often label others based on their beliefs rather than facts, to make themselves feel better. 🎭

Impact on Socialization: Such responses don't affect you negatively or educate you positively, but can discourage others from socializing. 🌐

Free Speech Advocacy: You prefer socializing without moderation and support free speech, believing no one is harmed by words. 🗣️

Experience in Anonymous Environments: You've socialized with many people anonymously, often resolving conflicts in various groups. 🤝

Support for Games: Supporting a game financially makes someone a supporter, and you've done so during the rise of the F2P model. 🎮

Motivation Over Money: It's more important when you support a product rather than how much. Products are driven by motivation, with finances supporting this. 💡

Significant Support: Your support for a particular product has been significant over 13 years, aiming to motivate and engage the community. 📈

Path to Success: Success follows interest, hard work, and dedication. High demand for careers like software engineers makes game development costly. 💼

Personal Regret and Future Plans: You regret not pursuing a career in game development earlier but now have the time and money to pursue it. 🎓


It's cute that ChatGPT added emojis to the list. Could be 1:1 a post from Facebook

OK, I'm sold. ChatGPT actually is useful.
Remember, remember the 6th of December...
I hope you'll update us on your development career, Kopo.
Sometimes, just sometimes, you should really consider adapting to the world, instead of demanding that the world adapts to you.
Diablo is dead. PoE does well because Diablo is dead.

The industry writ large is chock full of people who don't simply care enough to make the best games. They're preoccupied with funding their lifestyles.

Naturally the best scenario is indie and GGG was indie for a long time. You can afford an indie trajectory when your audience is niche, your product manageable and your outliers few. That was what GGG had with PoE.

The problem is growing. Why and for who. Certainly not for us. Probably not for the developers either. I lament the day big money grew interested in gaming. This happened in the 80s and is happening now. It's not just Sony and Microsoft anymore. It's so many more too big to fail outfits with high turnover and excessive redundancy.

The actual reality of this industry and the IT industry as a whole is that the Pareto principle applies. You can't game it. You want growth but to get growth you need to lower your standards considerably. Lower them too far and you become the big inflexible lead balloon, too.

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