I already dislike 3.25 it seems like another micromanagment and reading

I for one am pining for another complex progressive league mechanic like Delve/Heist/Sanctum.

The closest we got recently was ToTA and that didn't really vibe with me to be honest.

Affliction and Necropolis were ok mechanics but they focused more on giving us power rather than new gameplay elements to enjoy. I'd love to see synthesis or original harvest back in some form but I highly doubt that would ever happen haha. The dev approach has been pretty soft towards the playerbase recently so I don't see them making any fundamental changes that would upset people like bringing back old layers of complexity :')

League mechanics aside though, the core changes to the game have been carrying it recently; and even if we got basically nothing in the new league mechanics themselves I would still be playing and enjoying myself immensely. So whichever way this new mechanic goes, I'll still be hyped for the upcoming league.
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I find it very amusing the amount of flak the OP got for "speculation" considering his thoughts came from GGG's own drip fed teaser marketing.

What else is there to do but speculate when GGG just provides smaller teaser clips? I mean really.

Sure there is middle ground between blind faith, and unwavering cynicism, but overall let's not shoot the messenger here since it's GGG hype-building marketing drama at work.

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SpeedFreak3 wrote:
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Gopstop22 wrote:
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I'd lose my shit if they did one as simple as Onslaught again. *monkey paw curls*



not asking for onslaught but like Expedition was simple breach was amazing one of the best leagues ever and ritual was simple and very fun and delirium and several others i cant bother name them all


Expedition is a bad example for your case.

The whole leage people complained that they had to read the damn remnants even after GGG color coded that stuff.


And expedition had quite bad player retention. Not as bad as necropolis and kalandra, but on the lower end.

Meanwhile, the best retention leagues are:
Breach
Abyss
Bestiary
Harbinger
etc.

Things that are simple and complementary to maps. Or side content that is easy to understand and get involved with, like delve (or to a lesser extent sanctum, though sanctum strongly disfavors some types of builds). Stuff like TOTA is too far away from the core game.

There's people on the forums that love spending 2 hours setting up a graveyard craft, but they are a tiny minority. Most people just want to blast and don't want to spend 10 minutes reading every map. Even Ben complains about this kind of content and hates reading expedition markers and having to plan out explosive paths, and it's even worse since they made Rog one of the only ways to get high-quality rares in SSF so expedition is basically required for HCSSF or challenge leagues.
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Poiuytr133 wrote:
And expedition had quite bad player retention. Not as bad as necropolis and kalandra, but on the lower end.

Meanwhile, the best retention leagues are:
Breach
Abyss
Bestiary
Harbinger
etc.

Things that are simple and complementary to maps. Or side content that is easy to understand and get involved with, like delve (or to a lesser extent sanctum, though sanctum strongly disfavors some types of builds). Stuff like TOTA is too far away from the core game.

There's people on the forums that love spending 2 hours setting up a graveyard craft, but they are a tiny minority. Most people just want to blast and don't want to spend 10 minutes reading every map. Even Ben complains about this kind of content and hates reading expedition markers and having to plan out explosive paths, and it's even worse since they made Rog one of the only ways to get high-quality rares in SSF so expedition is basically required for HCSSF or challenge leagues.


Expedition "failed" because of the flask nerfs and other drama... you seem to forget that they don't just push out new leagues but also change the game as a whole through expansions and balance changes.

But sure, just completely ignore those things for whatever reason.

Might wanna read this article
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kyobusa wrote:
Im just curious as to what else is getting nerfed.


This.
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Gopstop22 wrote:
seriously what happened with simple league mechanics where you open something spawn monsters kill them get loot instead we get this micromanagment where you need place something in correct order and read alot and other stuff like zzzzz


And dont forget, if you miss a color/movement puzzle in a screen cramed of visual high contrast noise, you take 50000 unavoidable, unmitigated damage.

I also like the "go'n smash with your Big Bonker Club" way. The Karui Way.

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